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mikelegacy Well Established Member

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There is my answer. Definitely not Championship flight.





There is everyone's answer, you're a pretentious douchebag.


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Originally Posted by mikelegacy

There is everyone's answer, you're a pretentious douchebag.


Hahahaha, well said…

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Originally Posted by funkyfred72

There is my answer. Definitely not Championship flight.


Aaaaaand, you just proved my point… Thanks!

In my Ogio bag.

Titleist 910D2 driver, Adams irons & hybrid, Callaway wedges & a Nike Method putter.

And a yellow ball.
 

 

The great irony of life: "If nobody gets out alive, what's holding you back!?"


deasy55 Great Member

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I actually think the handicap does matter here. If a better than scratch golfer (e.g +2) had got 4 wins in 2 months I would see nothing wrong with it other than a fantastic golfer playing fantastic golf. However, if a 36 handicap was winning all around him I would be a bit skeptical.

Perhaps that's just me though.


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Handicap indeces do matter.

They're a point of pride to some people. They add a layer of information to others.

You can - speaking generally here - and some do put too much importance on them, but that's their fault. Others will feel that their advice means little because they have a "23.4" beneath their avatar or something, and while it's easy for me to say as a scratch golfer and an instructor, that's their problem, because though I'll tailor my advice slightly based on handicaps, I try to take in any and all opinion and information with a blind eye towards handicap index. Information is not the same as skill.

Also, failing to list a handicap simply means that virtually everyone will assume you can't break 100.

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inthecup Great Member

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I agree that a handicap does matter and is helpful.  It tells people to a degree where you are at in the process of getting better.

Not listing one is counter productive in my opinion.  When you start playing you find truths that over time do not hold up.  Knowing someone's skill level through handicap helps.

I am not saying the OP is a sand bagger but I really do not get sand baggers.  Winning with an inflated handicap is a hollow victory.

There is one in every group.  At our club there is a guy that shoots his best rounds of the year by 10 stokes at the invitational every year.  Amazing.

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i dont have an accurate handicap.....hence the even number. Havent payed in years for the information. I play with the same people and regardless we have "history" to dictate appropriate stroke to be given or taken......

after reading this discussion forum for the last 6 months.....i am joining the Men's Club again to get "legit" again and play in tournaments again.....

this board has made me want to start working on my game again


Gresh24 Dedicated Member

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I had never computed a handicap until I joined this forum.  I have never needed one, or even knew what went into it.  I think I did it right, but it is only based on the most recent 5 rounds I had when I calculated it.  I thought the 5 rounds were a good indication of my scoring, 2 decent and 3 average to below average.  I can shoot in the low 80's and get an ocassional 100.

I am, however, now starting to track fairways hit, GIR's, and puts.  That helps me and I use it as my measure, and haven't updated my handicap.

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I understand some of your point of views, I do. But whatever my handicap is, shouldn't matter to those of you who actually want to share insight for my question in this thread. PERIOD!

This forum drives me crazy with how many people are "pretentious douche bags" as it was put. And it pretty much starts with the posting of a handicap. I am a good golfer, not a great golfer, not a bad golfer. My opinion and suggestions posted here shouldn't be null in void just because the OP is a 4 handicap and Im not. Thats just ridiculous, and ignorant in my opinion. If there's a question or a request and the responder gives a stupid answer, or a clearly inexperienced answer then by all means, ignore it. Judging someone because of their handicap is as stupid as judging them by the slope/rating of thier home golf course, and assuming you are better than them…

In my Ogio bag.

Titleist 910D2 driver, Adams irons & hybrid, Callaway wedges & a Nike Method putter.

And a yellow ball.
 

 

The great irony of life: "If nobody gets out alive, what's holding you back!?"


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Originally Posted by SVTGolfer

I understand some of your point of views, I do. But whatever my handicap is, shouldn't matter to those of you who actually want to share insight for my question in this thread. PERIOD!

This forum drives me crazy with how many people are "pretentious douche bags" as it was put. And it pretty much starts with the posting of a handicap. I am a good golfer, not a great golfer, not a bad golfer. My opinion and suggestions posted here shouldn't be null in void just because the OP is a 4 handicap and Im not. Thats just ridiculous, and ignorant in my opinion. If there's a question or a request and the responder gives a stupid answer, or a clearly inexperienced answer then by all means, ignore it. Judging someone because of their handicap is as stupid as judging them by the slope/rating of thier home golf course, and assuming you are better than them…



I agree and disagree.  I think many take it way too far and are pretentious about it for sure.  And in a forum like this, I'd bet there are about half as many single digit handicapers as what are posted.

That said, I see relevance in taking advice from better players, as more credible.  Certainly not always, but I give advice in areas where people have been sucessful, more credence than those who have not had success (or as much).  If I want investment advice, I get it from someone who has had success as an investor - not a causual e-trade investor.  Same with other sports and areas of life as well.  I hold the more succesful in a higher regard, generally speaking.

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Originally Posted by Gresh24

I agree and disagree.  I think many take it way too far and are pretentious about it for sure.  And in a forum like this, I'd bet there are about half as many single digit handicapers as what are posted.

That said, I see relevance in taking advice from better players, as more credible.  Certainly not always, but I give advice in areas where people have been sucessful, more credence than those who have not had success (or as much).  If I want investment advice, I get it from someone who has had success as an investor - not a causual e-trade investor.  Same with other sports and areas of life as well.  I hold the more succesful in a higher regard, generally speaking.



I understand that, and I agree, but what does it have to do with this thread?

In my Ogio bag.

Titleist 910D2 driver, Adams irons & hybrid, Callaway wedges & a Nike Method putter.

And a yellow ball.
 

 

The great irony of life: "If nobody gets out alive, what's holding you back!?"


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When you go to the doctor or lawyer do you ask what their GPA in college was?  Credibility needs to be earned IMO not just based on a diploma or handicap score.  I've found some of the best advice on this board came from guys with mid-teen handicaps.  I've also seen some really bad advice given by supposed single digit hc's.  I'd put Fourputt's knowledge of the rules of golf up against any single index players here.

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That said, I see relevance in taking advice from better players, as more credible.  Certainly not always, but I give advice in areas where people have been sucessful, more credence than those who have not had success (or as much).  If I want investment advice, I get it from someone who has had success as an investor - not a causual e-trade investor.  Same with other sports and areas of life as well.  I hold the more succesful in a higher regard, generally speaking.



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Clambake Great Member

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Wow, I just made the mistake of reading through this thread.   Kind of makes me wish the internet was never invented......

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Back to the OP: If you win a lot of events using your handicap, it should be adjusted. Maybe you are a sandbagger. Maybe a clutch player. Maybe you just play a lot of match-play and find yourself taking risks you don't take in metal play. (Is it true that in Great Britain they do not record match-play rounds for that reason?) Whatever it is, you're going to get a bit of an adjustment. Win the next tournament and you'll see even more of an adjustment. If your handicap is real -- and I have no reason to question your honesty -- then good for you winning four times in two months.

Again, good for you. Some sandbagging cockroach has got to win each of those tournaments. Mine as well be you.

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Originally Posted by rustyredcab

Back to the OP: If you win a lot of events using your handicap, it should be adjusted. Maybe you are a sandbagger. Maybe a clutch player. Maybe you just play a lot of match-play and find yourself taking risks you don't take in metal play. (Is it true that in Great Britain they do not record match-play rounds for that reason?) Whatever it is, you're going to get a bit of an adjustment. Win the next tournament and you'll see even more of an adjustment. If your handicap is real -- and I have no reason to question your honesty -- then good for you winning four times in two months.

Again, good for you. Some sandbagging cockroach has got to win each of those tournaments. Mine as well be you.


I can't see recording match play rounds at any time.  You don't putt out if the  putt is conceded do you?


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Originally Posted by camper6

I can't see recording match play rounds at any time.  You don't putt out if the  putt is conceded do you?

We didnt record those rounds either…

In my Ogio bag.

Titleist 910D2 driver, Adams irons & hybrid, Callaway wedges & a Nike Method putter.

And a yellow ball.
 

 

The great irony of life: "If nobody gets out alive, what's holding you back!?"


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Originally Posted by rustyredcab

Back to the OP: If you win a lot of events using your handicap, it should be adjusted. Maybe you are a sandbagger. Maybe a clutch player. Maybe you just play a lot of match-play and find yourself taking risks you don't take in metal play. (Is it true that in Great Britain they do not record match-play rounds for that reason?) Whatever it is, you're going to get a bit of an adjustment. Win the next tournament and you'll see even more of an adjustment. If your handicap is real -- and I have no reason to question your honesty -- then good for you winning four times in two months.

Again, good for you. Some sandbagging cockroach has got to win each of those tournaments. Mine as well be you.



I don't understand the negativity… I guess some people cant stand losing? Are you just generally an ******* or casually a pretentious douche bag?

In my Ogio bag.

Titleist 910D2 driver, Adams irons & hybrid, Callaway wedges & a Nike Method putter.

And a yellow ball.
 

 

The great irony of life: "If nobody gets out alive, what's holding you back!?"


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Originally Posted by Clambake

Wow, I just made the mistake of reading through this thread.   Kind of makes me wish the internet was never invented......



And yet you posted a response… Hmm…

In my Ogio bag.

Titleist 910D2 driver, Adams irons & hybrid, Callaway wedges & a Nike Method putter.

And a yellow ball.
 

 

The great irony of life: "If nobody gets out alive, what's holding you back!?"


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