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golf55 Well Established Member

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is higher the ball flight the better? I been trying the new swing and here are pros and cons

PROS

-higher ball flight?(not sure if this is pro or con)

-sounds on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

- feel on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

CONS

-lose A LOT of distance 15yard or so for iron,  25-35yards for driver, 40yards for pitch wedges

-the swing/grip/stand is very awkward

Should I change back to my regular swing? the regular swing feels more natural.

Now the consistency is pretty much the same. The biggest difference is the ball flight and awkward swing/distance.

Golf is competition for me and not a hobby, might also play for D1. Which is better for me in the long run?


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A really high trajectoy isnt a good thing if youre losing distance.  Plus, in windy conditions your ball is going to balloon and its going to be really hard to control your direction because the balls going to drift a lot in the wind.

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golf55 Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by TitleistWI

A really high trajectoy isnt a good thing if youre losing distance.  Plus, in windy conditions your ball is going to balloon and its going to be really hard to control your direction because the balls going to drift a lot in the wind.



good point, The sound on the impact of the ball is really amazing though. I think I'll try to find a swing somewhere in between so I don't lose too much distance but keep the feel of the ball.


Harmonious Great Member

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Get on a launch monitor to determine EXACTLY your launch angle and spin rate.  What you think is a high launch may in reality be OK, when combined with the right spin. Or it may be way too high.  You won't know until you are tested.

And if, by D1 you mean Division 1 college golf (seriously?), you'll need to get that info ASAP, in order to drop those last 10 strokes from you handicap.


Gregoryhouse Member

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I had the same problem, prior to start taking S&T lessons.

I had a negative left wrist angle that caused either hig shots or thin/fat ones.

If that's your problem, you can check out a great post by Iacas on lag that may halp you.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/53131/lag-too-much-of-a-good-thing


sean_miller Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by golf55

is higher the ball flight the better? I been trying the new swing and here are pros and cons

PROS

-higher ball flight?(not sure if this is pro or con)

-sounds on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

- feel on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

CONS

-lose A LOT of distance 15yard or so for iron,  25-35yards for driver, 40yards for pitch wedges

-the swing/grip/stand is very awkward

Should I change back to my regular swing? the regular swing feels more natural.

Now the consistency is pretty much the same. The biggest difference is the ball flight and awkward swing/distance.

Golf is competition for me and not a hobby, might also play for D1. Which is better for me in the long run?



Which what is better for you? A new swing that puts the ball higher and shorter? I'd take 15 yards less if it was more accurage, but 35 - 40? Not so much. What is "stright (see emphasis added)?

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JohnQVegas Member

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Originally Posted by golf55

good point, The sound on the impact of the ball is really amazing though. I think I'll try to find a swing somewhere in between so I don't lose too much distance but keep the feel of the ball.



It doesn't matter how it sounds, it how it looks and if it's flying the way you want it to. If you want a higher trajectory with less roll on the end, good work. If you're losing that much distance, that seems to be a MAJOR con.


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I would prefer a higher natural ball flight. On approach shots (even with mid to longer irons) a higher ball flights promotes more of a drop-and-stop reaction on the green without having to estimate too much roll. I would think accuracy would increase with a higher trajectory.

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JohnQVegas Member

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Originally Posted by golf55

is higher the ball flight the better? I been trying the new swing and here are pros and cons

PROS

-higher ball flight?(not sure if this is pro or con)

-sounds on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

- feel on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

CONS

-lose A LOT of distance 15yard or so for iron,  25-35yards for driver, 40yards for pitch wedges

-the swing/grip/stand is very awkward

Should I change back to my regular swing? the regular swing feels more natural.

Now the consistency is pretty much the same. The biggest difference is the ball flight and awkward swing/distance.

Golf is competition for me and not a hobby, might also play for D1. Which is better for me in the long run?


How are you losing 30 yards off your driver and 40 yards off your wedges? That's the biggest confusion for me...


sean_miller Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by JohnQVegas

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Originally Posted by golf55

is higher the ball flight the better? I been trying the new swing and here are pros and cons

PROS

-higher ball flight?(not sure if this is pro or con)

-sounds on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

- feel on the impact is better (doesn't mean the ball trajectory is more stright)

CONS

-lose A LOT of distance 15yard or so for iron,  25-35yards for driver, 40yards for pitch wedges

-the swing/grip/stand is very awkward

Should I change back to my regular swing? the regular swing feels more natural.

Now the consistency is pretty much the same. The biggest difference is the ball flight and awkward swing/distance.

Golf is competition for me and not a hobby, might also play for D1. Which is better for me in the long run?

How are you losing 30 yards off your driver and 40 yards off your wedges? That's the biggest confusion for me...



I think you know why. People are just too polite to say it.

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Bastid Well Established Member

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I miss the days of only having one ball flight. I'll work it high, low, left, or right depending on the shot. Sometimes you want a lower shot for good control, sometimes you want the ball to just fall out of the sky and stop.

I say start with high (as long as it's not a balloon) and learn how to play. The rest of the shot-making will come in time. Just play a lot for the remainder of your life and you'll get there eventually.

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Originally Posted by Bastid

I miss the days of only having one ball flight. I'll work it high, low, left, or right depending on the shot. Sometimes you want a lower shot for good control, sometimes you want the ball to just fall out of the sky and stop.

I say start with high (as long as it's not a balloon) and learn how to play. The rest of the shot-making will come in time. Just play a lot for the remainder of your life and you'll get there eventually.



When was there ever only one ball flight?


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Originally Posted by Tomboys



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golf55 Well Established Member

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Originally Posted by Harmonious

Get on a launch monitor to determine EXACTLY your launch angle and spin rate.  What you think is a high launch may in reality be OK, when combined with the right spin. Or it may be way too high.  You won't know until you are tested.

And if, by D1 you mean Division 1 college golf (seriously?), you'll need to get that info ASAP, in order to drop those last 10 strokes from you handicap.


will get on launch monitor sometimes next week or so. Yes by D1 college and I'm working very hard to lose those 10 strokes off my handicap.



Originally Posted by sean_miller

Which what is better for you? A new swing that puts the ball higher and shorter? I'd take 15 yards less if it was more accurage, but 35 - 40? Not so much. What is "stright (see emphasis added)?



I guess "stright' meant more accurate but it's really the same. Mid Irons I prefer the old swing, the long and wedges I prefer the new swing but that's where I lose the most distance.



Originally Posted by JohnQVegas

How are you losing 30 yards off your driver and 40 yards off your wedges? That's the biggest confusion for me...



Not really sure. I don't lose that much distance with my mid irons but longer clubs and shorter wedges I lose a lot. I prefer the new swing for longer/shorter clubs though.

old swing about 295yards- the new swing higher launch and about 265

old 150yard Pitch wedge- the 110yards with pitching.

I'm gonna get on launch monitor and get a lesson from PGA pro to see what's going on but everyone eles is telling me the new swing looks a lot better.


Bastid Well Established Member

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When my only goal was to hit the ball and I didn't think about the trajectory when visualizing the shot.

Driver: R11s 9 with a Fubuki Tour 63 X-Stiff
Fairway Wood: R11s 15.5 with Miyazaki Kusala Black 83 X-Stiff

Hybrid: taylormade.gif 4 with Fubuki 515 X-Stiff
Irons: titleist.gif Forged 660 3-PW with Dynamic Gold X-100

Wedges: callaway.gif CC Jaws 52 and 58 Degree
Putter: ping.gif In Anser 2


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Video yourself with a high frame per second camera. I'd check at impact where your shaft is leaning, where your hands are. That will tell you everything.

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