My Swing (Carpediem4300)

[carpediem4300]

Makes sense

 

not overly looking forward to tomorrows round, doubt ill get any range time before i go out due to other commitments

 

so annoying when i dont play for a while and lose my swing, broke 80 a few months ago and a load of low 80's as well, 

 

as a check point if i get the shoulders working right on the backswing am i likely to chunk it a little until i get the hips moving forward? Ill do one piece at a time but dont want to give up on the first bit the first time i try

[iacas]

5 minutes ago, carpediem4300 said:

as a check point if i get the shoulders working right on the backswing am i likely to chunk it a little until i get the hips moving forward? Ill do one piece at a time but dont want to give up on the first bit the first time i try

Not necessarily, no.

[carpediem4300]

Your help is seriously appreciated, my last question before i go and work on it would be if i sort my shoulder angles and stop whiffing it but continue shanking it what should i do? If you cant answer that cus it depends on the swing ill call it a night and just go work on it haha

[iacas]

4 minutes ago, carpediem4300 said:

Your help is seriously appreciated, my last question before i go and work on it would be if i sort my shoulder angles and stop whiffing it but continue shanking it what should i do? If you cant answer that cus it depends on the swing ill call it a night and just go work on it haha

Just go work on it. Make the left shoulder go down more on the backswing. Head will stay more steady.

[mvmac]

8 hours ago, iacas said:

Make the left shoulder go down more on the backswing. Head will stay more steady.

Yep. Thanks for posting those pics.

@carpediem4300 good drill to acquire the feels that work for you. Easy to do at home and/or on the range. 

 

[carpediem4300]

Thanks :) the shoulder down feels for me are okay, i kind of feel a pressure in my left ribs

 

its now the feels on the way down, but im sure it will be okay, i was striking it nice a few months ago, just gotten sloppy so im sure it will come back

[carpediem4300]

Well a mixed bag of a round, 98 on a tough ish course

main misses where fat shots (including a few driver fats) thins still, 1 shank and a few blocks

shoulders down definately helping but i found holding the club tighter in my right hand than my left hand helped quite a bit, dont understand that though

[iacas]

14 minutes ago, carpediem4300 said:

Well a mixed bag of a round, 98 on a tough ish course

main misses where fat shots (including a few driver fats) thins still, 1 shank and a few blocks

shoulders down definately helping but i found holding the club tighter in my right hand than my left hand helped quite a bit, dont understand that though

Yeah, well, all you've illustrated is that you need to practice things before you really put them into play.

[carpediem4300]

Haha very true, need to get back down the range and practice it some more

hit some great drives though, got one out there 280 ?? shame about the rest of my game

[carpediem4300]

@iacas sorry to post a question without video,  i did set my phone up to record on the last few balls of my session but my damn iphone screwed it up again (dropping it two stories probably broke something ???)

 

whilst at the range and focusing on the shoulders down i wasnt thinning anything but a few came out fat, and a number of shanks

 

my buddy was watching me and he asked me where my weight was on feet at address, i replied (centred between heels and toes) he asked me to take my address position, he stood behind me and gave me a shove and i didnt move, he stood in front of me and repeated and i went flying.......he said (your weight is on your heels, thats why you lose balance coming down and shank, and when you dont you lose balance on your finish)

 

with that in mind i messed about with the weight distribution and him shoving me , we sure fot some funny looks from others!!! And the feel i got where i didnt move from either direction of shove was to be on my toes, but he said (wiggle your toes up and down) which i did fine, and he explained the feel is im on my toes but im closer to being centred or slightly on the balls, 

 

so i went with it and my balance was fine, i only shanked the occasional shot, but i noticed i didnt have to concentrate as much on the "shoulders down" as it seemed to happen naturally

 

is it just a feel/thing for me or is this something that happens to others?

[iacas]

5 hours ago, carpediem4300 said:

my buddy was watching me and he asked me where my weight was on feet at address, i replied (centred between heels and toes) he asked me to take my address position, he stood behind me and gave me a shove and i didnt move, he stood in front of me and repeated and i went flying.......he said (your weight is on your heels, thats why you lose balance coming down and shank, and when you dont you lose balance on your finish)

Okay…

5 hours ago, carpediem4300 said:

so i went with it and my balance was fine, i only shanked the occasional shot, but i noticed i didnt have to concentrate as much on the "shoulders down" as it seemed to happen naturally

I doubt it. You probably still needed to do the shoulder down stuff.

Feel ain't real. Corroborate with video.

[carpediem4300]

Will get video up next time i got to the range, will borrow my friends phone instead of mine as it seems unreliable

 

7 hours ago, iacas said:

Okay…

I doubt it. You probably still needed to do the shoulder down stuff.

Feel ain't real. Corroborate with video.

Yeah im well versed in the feel versus real, i've often felt im doing something that I'm not, hence the question to see if the feel translated into anything you know about, obviously video is the only way for you to answer that :)

 

[mvmac]

And try to record the video in slo-mo.

[carpediem4300]

@mvmac you mentioned about keeping the clubhead closed more on the backswing a few posts ago, i tried this down the range and whilst I still pulled some shots, generally contact was great, i didnt top/thin anything and this was the only concious thing i tried, what is this actually doing/promoting on the backswing to change the contact from thin to fine? Im just after understanding rather than analysis of my swing on this one

[mvmac]

9 hours ago, carpediem4300 said:

@mvmac you mentioned about keeping the clubhead closed more on the backswing a few posts ago, i tried this down the range and whilst I still pulled some shots, generally contact was great, i didnt top/thin anything and this was the only concious thing i tried, what is this actually doing/promoting on the backswing to change the contact from thin to fine? Im just after understanding rather than analysis of my swing on this one

Does a few things

- Promotes the club loading "up" more on the backswing and shallowing on the downswing, (generally). You look like you go shallow on the backswing and have a lot of rolling of the face on the downswing. Harder move to time and harder to control the path of the sweetspot. 
- Make a takeaway where you fan the face open and another where the face is closed, I'd bet the left shoulder is more "down" in the latter. So less changes in your distance to the ball the easier it will be to make solid contact.

[carpediem4300]

2 hours ago, mvmac said:

Does a few things

- Promotes the club loading "up" more on the backswing and shallowing on the downswing, (generally). You look like you go shallow on the backswing and have a lot of rolling of the face on the downswing. Harder move to time and harder to control the path of the sweetspot. 
- Make a takeaway where you fan the face open and another where the face is closed, I'd bet the left shoulder is more "down" in the latter. So less changes in your distance to the ball the easier it will be to make solid contact.

Ah okay that makes sense thank you for clarifying, It was an impromptu range session as I drove past and had some time to kill but had left my phone at home so couldnt record it, the only thing i noticed apart from still having a slight pull and crisper contact was popping up some of my drives, will have to go back and see if the same happens whilst im recording it, thanks again, my biggest bug bear about golf is doing something but not understanding why/causes & effects etc,