What would you do if you found the Thief?

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

There's a big difference between 'lost' and 'stolen'. You said you lost your wedge. Somebody found it, and it's too much of an assumption to make that the finder just put it in his bag & said finders keepers. Maybe he turned it in, it went 30 days without being claimed, so he got it.

My advice to you is be more careful with your clubs.

Wouldn't the same type of person that would turn a club in before later claiming it, also freely and openly admit they found it if the rightful owner confronted them about it?

Brandon

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

Wouldn't the same type of person that would turn a club in before later claiming it, also freely and openly admit they found it if the rightful owner confronted them about it?

Brandon

Yes exactly, That's why I wouldn't hand it in in the first place. Give the previous owner an inch and they try to take a mile.

[zipazoid]

I would assume so.

This thread reminded me of a situation a few years ago - I was playing a course by myself & after finishing one hole I went into the nearby woods to do a little ball-hawking. Nobody was behind me - I had the place to myself. Well, I found a putter in the woods, and a left-handed Ping B-60 at that! (I'm left-handed)

Did I turn that club in? No. Why? Because obviously someone chucked it into the woods in frustration & didn't bother to go looking for it.

That's not even a 'lost' club. That's a rejected club. Mine.

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by zipazoid

I would assume so.

This thread reminded me of a situation a few years ago - I was playing a course by myself & after finishing one hole I went into the nearby woods to do a little ball-hawking. Nobody was behind me - I had the place to myself. Well, I found a putter in the woods, and a left-handed Ping B-60 at that! (I'm left-handed)

Did I turn that club in? No. Why? Because obviously someone chucked it into the woods in frustration & didn't bother to go looking for it.

That's not even a 'lost' club. That's a rejected club. Mine.

Good point. And all the balls you found. I bet you didn't wonder who JJ was or the balls with 3 dots above the maker's name. I'd love one of those guys try to claim that it was their property. BTW don't be leaving your bag standing outside the 19th at my local club. You'll be able to bid for it on eBay but that's about it.

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

I agree, finders keepers. I have acquired at least 10 clubs this way, mainly wedges and the odd putter. I always go home to my wife and tell her that I found a great new club today. If you lose it and I find it, my gain your loss. Fairs fair.

Well, that's ridiculous.  There is nothing "fair" about that.

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

Yes exactly, That's why I wouldn't hand it in in the first place. Give the previous owner an inch and they try to take a mile.

Nevermind the fact that they still legally own said club.  That owner is a douche for trying to reclaim his property. /sarcasm

[Gresh24]

Brandon

Big Al is a funny guy...

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

Well, that's ridiculous.  There is nothing "fair" about that.

Nevermind the fact that they still legally own said club.  That owner is a douche for trying to reclaim his property. /sarcasm

Fair is what fair does! Leave your bulging wallet somewhere unattended for five seconds within my reach and I'll have it. Your family may starve for a week but I'll make a few pavement princesses a little better off with my winnings.

Originally Posted by Gresh24

Brandon

Big Al is a funny guy...

I may be funny but also honest. Come on I can't be alone on this.

[rustyredcab]

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

Good point. And all the balls you found. I bet you didn't wonder who JJ was or the balls with 3 dots above the maker's name. I'd love one of those guys try to claim that it was their property. BTW don't be leaving your bag standing outside the 19th at my local club. You'll be able to bid for it on eBay but that's about it.

Walking off the 18th with a guy I'd just met that round, he hands me a ball that is mine -- very unique markings. He said he found it a week or two ago and, seeing my ball, knew it was mine and thought he'd return it. I thought that was very nice.

Regarding a found club, our cart GPS system has a way to report a found club and a ranger will come get it and find the rightful owner.

Regarding telling your wife you found your new putters and wedges, my buddy's wife thinks he's the luckiest guy in the world because he wins new clubs all the time. My wife and I practice don't-ask-don't-tell when it comes to her shoes and purses and my golf stuff. Good thing she thinks golf clubs cost about the same as a pair of shoes.

[dsc123]

Originally Posted by rustyredcab

Good thing she thinks golf clubs cost about the same as a pair of shoes.

Are you sure you're pulling one over on her and not vice versa?  I bet she's on some shoe fashion forum saying the same thing!

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by rustyredcab

Walking off the 18th with a guy I'd just met that round, he hands me a ball that is mine -- very unique markings. He said he found it a week or two ago and, seeing my ball, knew it was mine and thought he'd return it. I thought that was very nice.

Regarding a found club, our cart GPS system has a way to report a found club and a ranger will come get it and find the rightful owner.

Regarding telling your wife you found your new putters and wedges, my buddy's wife thinks he's the luckiest guy in the world because he wins new clubs all the time. My wife and I practice don't-ask-don't-tell when it comes to her shoes and purses and my golf stuff. Good thing she thinks golf clubs cost about the same as a pair of shoes.

I don't have a problem with shoes, purses or clubs. If she knew how much I spend on hookers, drugs and gambling, then I would be in trouble.

[Gresh24]

Originally Posted by dsc123

Are you sure you're pulling one over on her and not vice versa?  I bet she's on some shoe fashion forum saying the same thing!

I was thinking the same thing.  Shoes and purses can very easily cost more than golf clubs, by a LOT.  She could win that one.

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by hanalei

I lost my $120 wedge on the course, just curious what u would do if u saw a guy playing with it (knowing that its yours).

Saying that.. What if you had previously asked the guy if he seen your club? and he lied to your face? (

With my personality I would make a BIG (non-physical) scene at the club house...Wish i could find the golf etiquette for dealing with thieves.

Bring back the chair. An eye for an eye.

I'll tell you what let drop another H bomb on a highly populated city.

I'm sure that's the etiquette you're looking for.

As big J said, "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

[x129]

In California, you have commited  petty theft by taking those clubs. You are required to make reasonable efforts to return property that isn't yours.  That saying that golf exposes a mans true character comes through again.

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

I agree, finders keepers. I have acquired at least 10 clubs this way, mainly wedges and the odd putter. I always go home to my wife and tell her that I found a great new club today. If you lose it and I find it, my gain your loss. Fairs fair.

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by x129

In California, you have commited  petty theft by taking those clubs. You are required to make reasonable efforts to return property that isn't yours.  That saying that golf exposes a mans true character comes through again.

Well, I'm proud to be British. We also have less fairies over here.

[burtonda]

Originally Posted by hanalei

I lost my $120 wedge on the course, just curious what u would do if u saw a guy playing with it (knowing that its yours).

Saying that.. What if you had previously asked the guy if he seen your club? and he lied to your face? (

With my personality I would make a BIG (non-physical) scene at the club house...Wish i could find the golf etiquette for dealing with thieves.

The Wikipedia page for Lost, Mislaid, and Abandoned property explains the common law implications of inadvertantly leaving your club on the course.  Essentially, it obligates the finder to turn the club over to the course with the idea being that the true owner will return for the club.  If the owner doesn't return for the club, the club may either be discarded or given to the finder.  This what any decent citizen should do without any understanding of the law or obligation under it.

So, yes, if you can positively ID the club you not only have the right to be upset, but you are still its legal owner.  Call the cops.  Let them create the scene.  Or just write it off as a lesson learned and take solace in the fact that you're a better person than the finder.

[burtonda]

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

Well, I'm proud to be British. We also have less fairies over here.

The common law references I made in the previous post derive from the common law of England.

[rustyredcab]

Originally Posted by Alan Conroy

... We also have less fairies over here.

Out of bounds.

I know you are trying to be witty and funny, but slurs like that are never good form. This is a nice place. Show some respect for the forum even in your humor.

[Alan Conroy]

Originally Posted by burtonda

The Wikipedia page for Lost, Mislaid, and Abandoned property explains the common law implications of inadvertantly leaving your club on the course.  Essentially, it obligates the finder to turn the club over to the course with the idea being that the true owner will return for the club.  If the owner doesn't return for the club, the club may either be discarded or given to the finder.  This what any decent citizen should do without any understanding of the law or obligation under it.

So, yes, if you can positively ID the club you not only have the right to be upset, but you are still its legal owner.  Call the cops.  Let them create the scene.  Or just write it off as a lesson learned and take solace in the fact that you're a better person than the finder.

I sleep like a baby.

Originally Posted by burtonda

The common law references I made in the previous post derive from the common law of England.

We're a nation of shopkeepers and shoplifters! Most nations are full of shirt lifters these days.