Score Question

[Dent]

Im a junior golfer so i have playing restrictions. I can only tee off on weekdays from 3:30-4 and then After 6 on a school night. I usually cannot make the 3:30 because the 3:59 etc times are booked. I start at 6 and play the front 9. I did this yesterday and shot a 39, now today im going to play the back at 6. If i add what i shoot today on the back and add the front from yesterday to figure out my final 18 score would it still be fair to say that i shot whatever the outcome is? I know its 2 different days but it is still playing the front 9 and back. Plz give your opinion on this.

[rusek]

Are you reporting the score to someone? If not then why care?


If you're using it for handicapping purposes, atleast in Michigan, the GAM, who uses the USGA scoring system, doubles 9 hole scores and uses them as one 18 hole score.

[$2 Nassau]

Yes, 9 hole scores can be combined to form an 18 hole score, even on different course.

[Dent]

oh okay thanks for that.. I was just checking, yes it is for handicap purposes and i didnt want it to seem that i was scoring unfairly because i played 9 holes on different days.

[Shindig]

  Dent said:

Im a junior golfer so i have playing restrictions. I can only tee off on weekdays from 3:30-4 and then After 6 on a school night. I usually cannot make the 3:30 because the 3:59 etc times are booked. I start at 6 and play the front 9. I did this yesterday and shot a 39, now today im going to play the back at 6. If i add what i shoot today on the back and add the front from yesterday to figure out my final 18 score would it still be fair to say that i shot whatever the outcome is? I know its 2 different days but it is still playing the front 9 and back. Plz give your opinion on this.

I think others got to the score questions, but I'm curious: what's with the playing restrictions? Is there a league at your course, are your parents setting the restrictions, or just a rule about juniors and timing? Oh, and congrats on the 39.

[Dent]

  Shindig said:

I think others got to the score questions, but I'm curious: what's with the playing restrictions? Is there a league at your course, are your parents setting the restrictions, or just a rule about juniors and timing?

Thank you, No juniors pay $500 for a membership, there are different catagories and the highest catagory pays around $3000. Since we pay less we get less playing time. Heres an actual restriction guideline from the website of my home course. "Must be under 19 prior to September 30, 2007 and older than 12 as of May 1, 2007. Not allowed to tee off between 3:30 p.m. and 6:30 p.m. on weekdays except during the school year when the Junior is allowed to tee off between 3:30 p.m. and 4:00 p.m. on Mondays and Fridays only. Not allowed to tee off before 10 a.m. Monday through Friday and 11:30 a.m. on Saturdays, Sundays and Holidays. May book tee times up to 4 days in advance." Pretty harsh if you ask me. On school nights there is almost no chance of playing 18 holes.

[RunOfTheDill]

I know your helping me on my topic but me and friend at his country club get 18 in almost every time after 6. We start at 6 and around 920 we have to whip out his special balls. These balls blink for 5 minutes upon contact so we get rounds in. Im bad but he says he only loses about 20 yards off his drive with these balls which is pretty good to get a round in.

[popey]

Im also a junior member and we to have playing restrictions. they are not as harsh as your club. Mine are cannot tee off before 12 on weekends. Although many of the juniors enter the tournaments at weekends so tee off in the morning.

Some clubs have stupid restrictions on junior golfer and most of them are better that the adult members. There should be a system that allows the junior golfers below a certain handicap should be allowed to play at anytime as it is not like they are going to mess up the course or hold up the adult members. The clubs also wonder why there are no good junior golfer coming through with those stupid restrictions.

I understand that we are not paying very much (£120 compared to £1500 for adults) for the membership but some members do not even no the rules. The junior members have to go through an interview to be allowed to play at the club which the adults do not.

LEAVE THE JUNIOR GOLFERS ALONE!!!!

[golfchief]

If you don't like the rules go somewhere else to play or pay a full membership fee to get all the perks. The club would not be their if the full dues paying members all left. Look at the whole picture that keeps your club going.

[popey]

I understand why it is the case but it is just frustrating that i am a 6 handicap (<- thats wrong) and i cant get on the course because of some hackers who pay more money.

I think there shoudl be a system for junior members allowing them under a certain handicap to play when they like to help them to develop there golf game

[iacas]

  popey said:

I understand why it is the case but it is just frustrating that i am a 6 handicap (<- thats wrong) and i cant get on the course because of some hackers who pay more money.

As he said, either pay more money or go somewhere else. If your only restriction is "can't play before 12 on weekends" then that's pretty darn relaxed.

You must not understand things if you still find it frustrating.

  popey said:

I think there shoudl be a system for junior members allowing them under a certain handicap to play when they like to help them to develop there golf game

So you're not only planning to discriminate based on age, but on ability, too? What handicap would be the cutoff? Why should the sucky 14-year-olds who have the most chance to improve be cut off while some 17-year-old who has less room to improve to "develop there [sic] golf game"???

It may not seem "fair" to you, kiddo, but I assure you, your attitude will change as you get older. P.S. You want to talk about frustrated? Imagine paying six or ten times the amount of someone else and not being able to get a tee time because that other person took the last time.

[Mulligan26]

I'm a junior and my membership cost 400 us dollars, with absolutly no restrictions. I get out whenever I want, although I do make tee times during weekends to be fair to the staff. I also work there and everyone knows me so that helps a bit.

[lamebums]

About junior memberships: At my home course, there's three golf courses: The Pioneer, The Willows, and Fox Run. The junior membership costs a fraction of the regular one, but juniors can only play on Pioneer, and probably for liability reasons, they can't use golf carts. There isn't any restriction on tee times (no member can get off before 1 PM on weekends without paying the full rate), but between juniors who have to walk, senior's and ladies leagues playing there all day on weekdays, and the joe-schmoe who has a six-pack of beer in his cart and plays really slowly, the play is incredibly slow there and it's by far the most crowded of the courses.

Not being able to ride a cart (yet having a driver's license) is what kept me from joining there for two years when I was younger - and I don't get he policy, because I've never met a walker who didn't play slowly, or slower than a similar person in a cart (I'm sure someone here will say, or is otherwise), carts when used properly can really speed up play.

[mybloodinvt]

  Mulligan26 said:

I'm a junior and my membership cost 400 us dollars, with absolutly no restrictions. I get out whenever I want, although I do make tee times during weekends to be fair to the staff. I also work there and everyone knows me so that helps a bit.

you work there and you don't play for free? something wrong with that picture.

[Dent]

I talked to the manager of the club and they are actually considering Raising the Tee off time instead of between 3:30-4 they are considering 3:30-5.

[lamebums]

  Dent said:

I talked to the manager of the club and they are actually considering Raising the Tee off time instead of between 3:30-4 they are considering 3:30-5.

That would make sense. Giving juniors only half an hour to tee off...even if they tried to pack you guys like sardines into foursomes and let a group off every seven minutes...we're still only talking 16 people.

[Parker0065]

  popey said:

I understand why it is the case but it is just frustrating that i am a 6 handicap (<- thats wrong) and i cant get on the course because of some hackers who pay more money.

I can feel your pain, but to some degree, the others are right that a club has to have full paying members to survive. If I was a junior in your situation I would be looking around for a different place to play. It depends on the number of courses in your area to choose from, but in most communities there are one or two courses that just don't get as much play. It may be because it's not well kept, but some of them don't get as much play because thier hilly and difficult(Walking Seniors tend to stray from hilly courses like it's the plague,,,lol). Look around, you may find a decent course that you can get on more often. The main factors I look at when choosing a membership is Practice Facilities, Course Rating, and Course Traffic. I was lucky to find my current club that is considered one of the toughest public courses in the area and is extremely hilly so it's never as packed as the courses in town that are flat and less likely to lose balls. Look around your area, you may get lucky.

[Mulligan26]

  mybloodinvt said:

you work there and you don't play for free? something wrong with that picture.

No I do get to play for free because of employment and because of my membership.