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Nearest I can tell, most standard wedge flexes are a Dynamic Gold S200. My irons have S300 shafts in them, but I'm debating whether I'd be better off with an X100 to keep the ball flight down. Thoughts?

At most you would want to go with is a S400 shaft. You should be able to keep the ball flight down with how you swing your wedge. You can just opt to go with S300's in your wedges like your irons. I've tried Callaway MD wedges with S300's and the shafts felt really good. Much more solid feeling than the S200's.

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Any particular reason S400 over X100?
Driver: Taylormade Tour Burner 9.5° | Fairway Wood: Adams Speedline Fast 10 15° | Irons: Mizuno MP-57 3-PW | Wedges: Cleveland CG11 52° 56° 60° | Putter: Odyssey White Hot XG Rossie
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After a discussion with Lee Trevino at the 1976 Tour Championship , started putting softer shafts in my SW. With the 4 wedges I use now I have the PW and GW tipped normal. The SW and LW are tipped as 8 irons and then cut to length. Also a trick I learned from Lee is to make long irons upright and short irons flatter by a degree from your standard lie. Jack Nicklaus also recommends softer shafts in wedges. If you check out a Spinner shaft you will see flex point is the same as 8 iron.

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4 wood-Infiniti 17*-UST IROD A shaft-Hard stepped(2009 model)
Hybrids 19* & 24*-Trident DSW-UST IROD Hybrid A shaft-hard stepped (2009 model)
Irons-5-PW- Wilson Staff Progressive Forged-TT Release  sensicore( 5&6-Soft stepped R-7,8&9-R-wedge hard stepped R
Wedges-52*-Wilson JP BeCE(54* bent to 52*)-TT-Release sensicore-hard stepped R

              56*Wilson R-61 BECU Sandy Andy- Release sensicore tipped same as 8 iron

               60* Wilson Harmonized BECU-Release sensicore tipped same as 8 iron

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I've heard about making longer clubs more upright before.. What's the purpose of softening your wedge shafts? Doesn't that make you sky everything? I feel like I'd get bored waiting for the ball to come out of the clouds...
Driver: Taylormade Tour Burner 9.5° | Fairway Wood: Adams Speedline Fast 10 15° | Irons: Mizuno MP-57 3-PW | Wedges: Cleveland CG11 52° 56° 60° | Putter: Odyssey White Hot XG Rossie
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I use the SW and LW for finesse shots. The soft shaft lets me feel the head better.

Wishon  715 CLC-AXE5 A shaft -hard steppedt -44.5"
4 wood-Infiniti 17*-UST IROD A shaft-Hard stepped(2009 model)
Hybrids 19* & 24*-Trident DSW-UST IROD Hybrid A shaft-hard stepped (2009 model)
Irons-5-PW- Wilson Staff Progressive Forged-TT Release  sensicore( 5&6-Soft stepped R-7,8&9-R-wedge hard stepped R
Wedges-52*-Wilson JP BeCE(54* bent to 52*)-TT-Release sensicore-hard stepped R

              56*Wilson R-61 BECU Sandy Andy- Release sensicore tipped same as 8 iron

               60* Wilson Harmonized BECU-Release sensicore tipped same as 8 iron

Woods- Star Grips  Irons Energy Grips

:Putter-Rife IBF with Ping Blackout Grip-35"

Ball-Wilson Staff Zip Golf. or C-25

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Divot tool try adding some weight by the head of the club, lead tape etc for now. see how they feel maybe the heads are too light for a stiff flexed shaft if they feel better with more weight bring them to a club fitter. In terms of wedge flex I think that it's just a marketing ploy

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You rarely take a swing at 100% with your wedges so I prefer having my wedges with a little softer flex than the rest of my irons. I use x100 in my irons and s400 in my wedges.

What's in my bag... Driver: Taylormade Aero Burner TP (10.5 degree) Fujikura Speeder 6.2 V.C. X-stiff 3-wood: Taylormade RBZ (15 degree) Hybrid: PING i15 (20 degree) Irons: PING S55 (4-W) with DG x100 Wedges: PING Tour s (50, 54 and 60 degree) Putter: Scotty Cameron Select Newport 1.5

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I love TT DG S300. from my club building days, a wedge is typically tip trimmed 4 inches which makes it slightly stiffer than longer clubs. The more you tip trim, the stiffer it gets but it's not a ton. TT DG S300 have a high kick point which I also prefer. Lower ball flight but better control. Those low kick point shafts can produce some wicked snap hooks (for me). I wouldn't change a thing with those wedges you have. My guess would be (and it's only an educated guess) is that a wedge flex would have less of the shaft tip trimmed. It would be slightly less stiff , producing more feel with those less than full shots. You could try a stiff shaft with less trim. I'm guessing you'd get better feel. Any club builders out there that agree?

Driver.......Ping K15 9.5* stiff 3 wood.....Ping K15 16* stiff 5 wood.....Ping K15 19* stiff 4 Hybrid...Cleveland Gliderail 23* stiff 5 - PW......Pinhawk SL GW...........Tommy Armour 52* SW...........Tommy Armour 56* LW...........Tommy Armour 60* FW...........Diamond Tour 68* Putter.......Golfsmith Dyna Mite Ball..........Volvik Vista iV Green Bag..........Bennington Quiet Organizer Shoes.... ..Crocs

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On 6/2/2007 at 0:51 AM, Divot Tool said:

I recently bought 3 Mizuno wedges (WOW....soft wedges indeed) from a local golf store. However, I had specified that the shafts be a wedge flex, but instead the salesman had told me that a stiff flex was better because one should not be concerned with distance as accuracy was the primary goal of wedges. Now, I'm regretting getting stiff wedges...as I can't seem to feel the heads as I swing. I don't always hit them solid....but enough to gauge my yardages..... LW=60 yrds, SW=70-75 yards, GW=80-85 yards.

Should I change shafts to a wedge flex? I'm just concerned about yardage gaps between clubs.

There is no such thing as wedge flex. It's a gimmick and nothing else.

Shafts are still the same flexes they used to be.

Some have many different labels but there is no wedge flex.

S 200  S 300  S400 and on and on

I spoke with my supplier True Temper and they were the ones that told me there was no wedge flex.

Your flex is not for your club your flex should be for your swing.

Just because you are older or younger does not in its self tell you which you should use.

I'm 65 and use a stiff on my 5 wood so I can produce a consistent slight draw. My swing speed is only 85 to 87.

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