Favorite NFL Team

[tiger187126]

  Kapanda said:

Originally Posted by Kapanda

Still pissed at Irsay for letting him go!

I'm a Rams fan, but I love Manning. I have a tendency of becoming a fan of the best.

Dunno what happened with the Rams thing... we suck right now.

with fischer and a metric ton of draft picks things will turn around. sam bradford is the real deal he just needs someone to throw to and someone who will actually catch.

i've seen him make ridiculous tight window throws and watch it bounce off his guys hands.

[meenman]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

S-W-E-P-T by Rex Grossman.

yeah the giants are juggernauts who can't be stopped

since 2003:

4 season over .500

4 seasons at/under .500

the homerism is strong with you, but your team is far from dominant.

your arguments are beyond weak - what have dallas and philly done to all of the sudden make them better than the defending champs?

Like it or not, Eli is one of the elite QBs in the league - your hatred (jealousy,envy) of him blinds you.

[tiger187126]

  meenman said:

Originally Posted by meenman

your arguments are beyond weak - what have dallas and philly done to all of the sudden make them better than the defending champs?

Like it or not, Eli is one of the elite QBs in the league - your hatred (jealousy,envy) of him blinds you.

dallas was one game away from winning the division and making the playoffs, they've added people and you've lost people so how is it so far fetched that they would win the division?

not to mention all philly needs to do is stay remotely healthy (a miracle) and they're NFC favorites.

how are either of those things weak?

the giants aren't a great team. they have great performances in crucial moments and eli has brady's number, but teams don't sit around and fear the giants.

no one is taking away the rings or saying they didn't earn them, but to just say they're the best the following year because they won is just plain silly. the phrase "any given sunday" has meaning.

eli is top 5 because of what he did last year, doesn't mean he'll be top 5 again when it's said and done this year. you can't accept that that's a possibility though, so your love is blinding you.

feel free to photoshop your head in there.

listen dude, this is the internet. you may get away with "the giants are the best because they won the super duper bowl" at the bar, but out here where stats, game tape, and info are a click away you're not going to slide on such a simplification.

[Kapanda]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

with fischer and a metric ton of draft picks things will turn around. sam bradford is the real deal he just needs someone to throw to and someone who will actually catch.

i've seen him make ridiculous tight window throws and watch it bounce off his guys hands.

I really like Bradford, and I like Fischer even more. I hope management and the owners don't get cold feet with him, regardless of what happens in the next few years. He's the sort of coach we can keep for the long haul. That's extremely important when building a team.

[tiger187126]

  Kapanda said:

Originally Posted by Kapanda

I really like Bradford, and I like Fischer even more. I hope management and the owners don't get cold feet with him. He's the sort of coach we can keep for the long haul. That's extremely important when building a team.

as a redskins fan i understand. the parade of coaches we walked through was laughable and yet even after a guy like zorn screws around you still have fans that wanted shanahan gone after year 1.

you have to keep the same nucleus and you have to have a vision for your team. you have pieces, but the clock has started on bradford before he gets gunshy. finnegan will bring some edge to your team on defense and i expect you guys to commit more to defense and running the ball. everyone knows SJax is a stud if he can stay healthy.

give your new coaches 3 years to turn it around, and don't worry about "overpaying" that phrase is overused. if finnigan brings an edge to your defense and makes plays then he's worth every penny.

plus the worse you do in the regular season (and the worse my team does) the more exciting draft day will become for you.

[clubchamp]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

as a redskins fan i understand. the parade of coaches we walked through was laughable and yet even after a guy like zorn screws around you still have fans that wanted shanahan gone after year 1.

you have to keep the same nucleus and you have to have a vision for your team. you have pieces, but the clock has started on bradford before he gets gunshy. finnegan will bring some edge to your team on defense and i expect you guys to commit more to defense and running the ball. everyone knows SJax is a stud if he can stay healthy.

give your new coaches 3 years to turn it around, and don't worry about "overpaying" that phrase is overused. if finnigan brings an edge to your defense and makes plays then he's worth every penny.

plus the worse you do in the regular season (and the worse my team does) the more exciting draft day will become for you.

As a Raiders fan I can say that up until this years draft I have never been excited for draft day. Unless of course the fastest player in the draft was actually really good.

[Kapanda]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

as a redskins fan i understand. the parade of coaches we walked through was laughable and yet even after a guy like zorn screws around you still have fans that wanted shanahan gone after year 1.

you have to keep the same nucleus and you have to have a vision for your team. you have pieces, but the clock has started on bradford before he gets gunshy. finnegan will bring some edge to your team on defense and i expect you guys to commit more to defense and running the ball. everyone knows SJax is a stud if he can stay healthy.

give your new coaches 3 years to turn it around, and don't worry about "overpaying" that phrase is overused. if finnigan brings an edge to your defense and makes plays then he's worth every penny.

plus the worse you do in the regular season (and the worse my team does) the more exciting draft day will become for you.

Yeah, you get sick of looking forward to April after a while!

But, as you prob know, we have some solids on D as well. Long delivers, so does Laurinitis. That's two out of 11, but that's something! A lot of football D can make up for the lack of talent in schemes. Which is why Greg going is such a huge deal - though I just drank the kool aid on him, I can't personally vouch for his coordinating skills.

Finnegan was a great signing, hopefully our first pick turns out to be a stud. If I'm not mistaken, pretty sure we got a good signing for outside backer as well... can't find it on the webs though so I might be wrong.

Found it. Rocky McIntosh. Not a Suggs by any means, but guy is solid.

[ZigZag]

The Giants have got hot late twice and won 2 superbowls. Full credit to them for taking there chances.

[turtleback]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

plus the worse you do in the regular season (and the worse my team does) the more exciting draft day will become for you.

Sounds like the 2013 draft will be an exciting one for the Redskins.

[meenman]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

dallas was one game away from winning the division and making the playoffs, they've added people and you've lost people so how is it so far fetched that they would win the division?

not to mention all philly needs to do is stay remotely healthy (a miracle) and they're NFC favorites.

how are either of those things weak?

the giants aren't a great team. they have great performances in crucial moments and eli has brady's number, but teams don't sit around and fear the giants.

no one is taking away the rings or saying they didn't earn them, but to just say they're the best the following year because they won is just plain silly. the phrase "any given sunday" has meaning.

eli is top 5 because of what he did last year, doesn't mean he'll be top 5 again when it's said and done this year. you can't accept that that's a possibility though, so your love is blinding you.

feel free to photoshop your head in there.

listen dude, this is the internet. you may get away with "the giants are the best because they won the super duper bowl" at the bar, but out here where stats, game tape, and info are a click away you're not going to slide on such a simplification.

Obviously you are just trying to justify your mancrush on Romo. And the *dream team* in philly must have been day dreaming through last season. Vick is not a good QB - the best thing to happen to atlanta was him being locked up.

Stats are for losers - you can pull stats out of your ass from now until the cows come home - stats do not win games. I am guessing that you are one of those fantasy dorks that roots for players on an enemy team if it is going to win you your fake game.

The Giants are the best coached team in the division, have the best d-line, 2 of the best receivers and the best QB. There are some question marks at 3rd WR, TE and LB - questions that they have managed to answer year after year - there is nothing in dallas or philly that puts fear into a giants fan.

Eli is top 5 period - what other QB  in the last 5 years has won 2 super bowls? Better yet who (other than Ben) has in recent history without an asterisk next to them?

[Kapanda]

  meenman said:

Originally Posted by meenman

Stats are for losers - you can pull stats out of your ass from now until the cows come home - stats do not win games.

MEGA FACEPALM!!!!

Of course stats don't fukin win games!!

Stats measure the factors that go into winning games!

[tiger187126]

  clubchamp said:

Originally Posted by clubchamp

As a Raiders fan I can say that up until this years draft I have never been excited for draft day. Unless of course the fastest player in the draft was actually really good.

they actually have had some decent drafts the last two years IIRC. i know al may have been a laughingstock for some of the things he did but he helped create what the NFL is today and he always wanted to see his team win. there are plenty of teams that have cheap owners who are merely trying to turn a profit and not doing whatever it takes to win.

  Kapanda said:

Originally Posted by Kapanda

Yeah, you get sick of looking forward to April after a while!

But, as you prob know, we have some solids on D as well. Long delivers, so does Laurinitis. That's two out of 11, but that's something! A lot of football D can make up for the lack of talent in schemes. Which is why Greg going is such a huge deal - though I just drank the kool aid on him, I can't personally vouch for his coordinating skills.

Finnegan was a great signing, hopefully our first pick turns out to be a stud. If I'm not mistaken, pretty sure we got a good signing for outside backer as well... can't find it on the webs though so I might be wrong.

Found it. Rocky McIntosh. Not a Suggs by any means, but guy is solid.

i went to OSU and i've met lauranitis (he's shorter than i thought he was). my wife has a huge crush on him, but he is a great player. your secondary is what kills you, i think you had about 20 guys start at corner last year so finnegan was a desperate need. williams was our d coordinator for several years, but when gibbs left for the second time there was a reason that gregg wasn't promoted. whispers are attitude conflict with the owner or the fact that everyone knew about bounties and didn't want to be involved without gibbs as a shield. he had some great seasons and he tanked a few, but he is a players coach and will get the most out of guys, as long as he's reinstated. if not you can always have haslett back next year. rocky was a redskin his whole career, decent player, and that's about it for us. he never seemed to stand out and often times his replacement would easily outshine him. i don't know who your previous 'backer was, but rocky is pretty good talent wise so it's probably an upgrade.

  turtleback said:

Originally Posted by turtleback

Sounds like the 2013 draft will be an exciting one for the Redskins.

his team owns our first rounder, that's why i said the worse our season goes the better his draft will be.

  Kapanda said:

Originally Posted by Kapanda

MEGA FACEPALM!!!!

Of course stats don't fukin win games!!

Stats measure the factors that go into winning games!

i've given up. obviously you cannot use any logic or facts to change his opinion. i mean as a redskins fan i'm obviously a huge tony romo fan and the only person in the world who thinks that romo and eli are close ability wise (even though it's written about every day since eli won his first SB).

the giants are the best coached team, as long as their coach is about to get fired. otherwise they hate everything about him and don't play for him. best d-line. debatable between philly and NY, redskins and cowboys play a different defense (not that meenman would understand) so it's moot to compare them. receivers? how about we give a guy like cruz more than 1 year and hakeem nicks stays healthy. so far dez is a whole lot of hype and talent, but a complete diva and miles austin is the reason i say we give cruz more time because guys do flash. desean is a deep threat and that's it and maclin is the better receiver.

the comment about answering year and after year is just silly though because they don't even make the playoffs regularly so obviously they aren't answering those questions, not to mention RB is probably one of the most important issues and is what killed you until the playoffs last year.

but this is all just useless talk for now, let's wait until the regular season and see how things shake out.

don't worry meenman i'll remind you when the games are on.

[ldpk]

go vikings its going to take a couple of years for them to re-group and when that happens watch out.

[bwdial]

  meenman said:

Originally Posted by meenman

I am guessing that you are one of those fantasy dorks that roots for players on an enemy team if it is going to win you your fake game.

I'll admit to being that guy... but only because there's $1,000 on the line.

[meenman]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

don't worry meenman i'll remind you when the games are on.

I would expect nothing less, but remember it works both ways ;)

[tiger187126]

  meenman said:

Originally Posted by meenman

I would expect nothing less, but remember it works both ways ;)

i'll be here, already ordered nfl ticket.

that is as long as direct tv doesn't decide to get into a contract dispute with the nfl.

[meenman]

  tiger187126 said:

Originally Posted by tiger187126

i'll be here, already ordered nfl ticket.

that is as long as direct tv doesn't decide to get into a contract dispute with the nfl.

The whole thing with viacom was kind of weird - usually there are a ton of commercials when a channel may go - was kind of lost last night when I saw that comedy central was gone

[tiger187126]

  meenman said:

Originally Posted by meenman

The whole thing with viacom was kind of weird - usually there are a ton of commercials when a channel may go - was kind of lost last night when I saw that comedy central was gone

they did this whole dance with fx last year and it got sorted out last minute apparently and i never missed anything, i couldn't believe they let this one lapse.

at least i got to watch tosh and workaholics before it cut off, even if there were three lines of arguing with each under underneath the show.