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I have 15 clubs I want to play but I cant. What should I take out?

Here is my set-up:

Driver- 9 Degree

3 wood- 14.3 Degree

Hybrid- 18 Degree

3 Iron- 20 Degree

4 Iron- 23 Degree

5 Iron- 26 Degree

6 Iron- 29 Degree

7 Iron-  33 Degree

8 Iron- 37 Degree

9 Iron- 41 Degree

Pitching Wedge- 46 Degree

Gap Wedge- 50 Degree

Sand Wedge- 56 Degree

Lob Wedge- 60 Degree

Putter

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2


Unless you absolutely love it, I'd drop the 3 Iron. Toughest club to hit that you have, most likely, and the Hybrid-4I gap should be manageable.

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  sofingaw said:
Originally Posted by sofingaw

Unless you absolutely love it, I'd drop the 3 Iron. Toughest club to hit that you have, most likely, and the Hybrid-4I gap should be manageable.

^^^^^^ Agree.  If you love your 3i than take out LW......

Driver: Cobra ZL Encore 10.5*

Irons: Mizuno MX-200 4-GW


Bye Bye 3 Iron

Driver      -  K15 10.5 w/ Ping TFC149D Shaft in stiff

4 Wood   -  Rapture V2 17.5* Aldila S-75

Hybrid    -   Super Hybrid SS 19* w/ Matrix Program

Irons      -   i20's 3-W, UW, SW & LW w/ KBS Tour Stiff +1/2" White Dot

Putter    -   White Ice #9 33"

Ball       -   B330-S & B330-RXS

                 D2 Feel

 

Bragging about a 200 yard 7 iron is not golf.


3 iron

Dan

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:ping: G20 3W
:callaway: Diablo 3H
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:vokey: Vokey SM4 54.14 
:vokey: Vokey :) 58.11

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Assuming you hit the 3-iron well, I'm guessing that the hybrid fills a nice gap between the 3-iron and 3-wood.

If you're not solid with the 3-iron, I'd pull it.  If you are, I'd pull the LW.  There's very little that the LW can do that a solid 9 hcp like you can't do with your SW.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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My setup is essentially the same but without the 3 iron...

Tristan Hilton

My Equipment: 
PXG 0211 Driver (Diamana S+ 60; 10.5°) · PXG 0211 FWs (Diamana S+ 60; 15° and 21°) · PXG 0211 Hybrids (MMT 80; 22°, 25°, and 28°) · PXG 0311P Gen 2 Irons (SteelFiber i95; 7-PW) · Edel Wedges (KBS Hi-Rev; 50°, 55°, 60°) · Edel Classic Blade Putter (32") · Vice Pro or Maxfli Tour · Pinned Prism Rangefinder · Star Grips · Flightscope Mevo · TRUE Linkswear Shoes · Sun Mountain C130S Bag

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My 3 iron is my go-to club in tournamnets and I played without a lob wedge last year and worked my handicap way down. My dad gave me the lob wedge so It wont be a loss of money because it was a hand me down. Do you think that I should make game time decisions for each course?

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2


  SamGray said:
Originally Posted by SamGray

I have 15 clubs I want to play but I cant. What should I take out?

Here is my set-up:

...

3 wood- 14.3 Degree

Hybrid- 18 Degree

3 Iron- 20 Degree

4 Iron- 23 Degree

5 Iron- 26 Degree ...

If you really hit your 3i OK, here's what to do:

  • Bend 3i to 21* loft
  • Dump 4i
  • Bend 5i to 25* , and lengthen shaft 1/4 inch

This will give you from 6i to 5i to 3i: maintain 4* loft difference, and go to 3/4" shaft length (rather than 1/2"). A bit more of a distance gap, but as long as you know it's there it's manageable.

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Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

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  WUTiger said:
Originally Posted by WUTiger

If you really hit your 3i OK, here's what to do:

Bend 3i to 21* loft

Dump 4i

Bend 5i to 25*, and lengthen shaft 1/4 inch

This will give you from 6i to 5i to 3i: maintain 4* loft difference, and go to 3/4" shaft length (rather than 1/2"). A bit more of a distance gap, but as long as you know it's there it's manageable.

*1

or bend 4 to 22 and 5 to 25 and see how it goes.

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I have a very similar setup as you.  Differences are my 3W is 15˚, irons from from 3˚ gap to 4˚ gap between 5i and 6i instead of 6i and 7i, which means I still have a 4˚ gap between 9i and PW instead of your 5˚ gap, and I have a 54˚ SW and 60˚ LW instead of a 50˚ GW, 56˚ SW, and 60˚ LW.  I feel you on the 3i love.  That's my go to tee club on any par 4 under 400 yards, even over my 18˚ hybrid.  In fact, when I have the money for a new iron set, I'll be seriously thinking about looking at sets that (optionally) include a 2i so I can play iron off the tee on par 4s in the low 400s too.

Personally I absolutely love having a 60˚ and would really feel at a disadvantage having my highest lofted club be a 54˚ or 56˚ SW.  Given that, in your current setup I'd probably drop the 18˚ hybrid.  As I've fallen in love with my 3i, I find I rarely hit the hybrid.  How often do I really need to be able to carry it 225 instead of 215 if I'm more confident in the 215 club?  You could go day by day, and bring the hybrid if you're playing a course where you'll need it for a par 3 or where, if you're hitting your long clubs well, you'll be able to reach a par 5 in two after a good drive with the hybrid but not with the 3i.

I think in the end it really depends on your wedge game.  Your avatar/post-profile doesn't give where you live and it's February and you said your dad just gave you the 60˚.  Have you gotten a chance to work with the 60˚?  If so, have you really taken to it?  I found almost right away that there were tons of shots <50 yards where I felt way more comfortable with the 60˚.  If you could take or leave the 60˚ then sure, drop that instead of the hybrid.  But if your go-to safe club off the tee is the 3i and not the 2h, then to me it feels like you're losing less dropping the hybrid.

Matt

Mid-Weight Heavy Putter
Cleveland Tour Action 60˚
Cleveland CG15 54˚
Nike Vapor Pro Combo, 4i-GW
Titleist 585h 19˚
Tour Edge Exotics XCG 15˚ 3 Wood
Taylormade R7 Quad 9.5˚

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My problem is that when I need to just advance the ball alot on a par 5 Im more comfortable with the 3 iron. But I havent worked with the 60 much but I have worked with it enough to love it on shorter bunker shots and land shots soft from shorter distances. Last year I played with no 60 and did pretty well. I also got new irons because mine were getting pretty old so I lost my 2 iron which was my go to club. But I might skip my 6 iron or take out the 60. Man this is a tough decision

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2


  WUTiger said:
Originally Posted by WUTiger

If you really hit your 3i OK, here's what to do:

Bend 3i to 21* loft

Dump 4i

Bend 5i to 25*, and lengthen shaft 1/4 inch

This will give you from 6i to 5i to 3i: maintain 4* loft difference, and go to 3/4" shaft length (rather than 1/2"). A bit more of a distance gap, but as long as you know it's there it's manageable.

Innovative! And keep the flop shot!

Driver      -  K15 10.5 w/ Ping TFC149D Shaft in stiff

4 Wood   -  Rapture V2 17.5* Aldila S-75

Hybrid    -   Super Hybrid SS 19* w/ Matrix Program

Irons      -   i20's 3-W, UW, SW & LW w/ KBS Tour Stiff +1/2" White Dot

Putter    -   White Ice #9 33"

Ball       -   B330-S & B330-RXS

                 D2 Feel

 

Bragging about a 200 yard 7 iron is not golf.


Drop the 4 iron, not the 3. Honestly, when was the last time you had a perfect 4 iron into the green? Bend the 5 too, get lofts of 20/21-25-29 in your long irons. That way your gaps will be pretty even, given that the 2h is a lot longer shaft than the 3i. That part of the set is tricky, more about ball flights than yardage IMO. If you're outside of 200 yards, even pros are lucky to hit the green and will usually be happy anywhere close. I'd rather use my 3-4 longest clubs to give me the most options off every tee; I have a driver for max distance and height, a 3 wood for fades and to prevent going through doglegs, a hybrid that's really easy to get good distance out of and goes high, and a 3 iron for a 230ish low bullet I can control very tightly or a soft shot off the tee. Though the hybrid is best off the deck, I can hit the 3 iron fairly well and the 3 wood tolerably off the deck when needed. I don't need 4 clubs I can hit over 220 off the ground. And if I'm hitting a 3 wood from 270 out, I'm not concerned if it runs through the green or comes up short or anything as long as I have a pitch at the flag.

I do need options on tricky par 4s to give me the best positioning; remember there are usually 3-4 par 5s per 18, but 10 or more par 4s that are all too easy to bogey even if they're under 400 yards with a poor tee shot. And of those par 5s, maybe one or two of them will actually be scoring opportunities. Most par 5s aren't realistically reachable anyway, and may need a sensible tee shot with a layup. So that's really one or two times a round you'll need a long shot off the deck unless the course is brutal or you mess up big time. But you have 14 or so tee shots and most of them don't need a driver; in fact you can aim at better targets with other clubs.

I love my 3 iron and wouldn't give it up for a hybrid personally. I like using a 2h rather than a 5 wood, but nothing replaces the long iron off the tee. You'd just end up hitting your 4 iron on really tight holes and getting less distance with the same accuracy.

I go for 3 wedges and a traditionally lofted 9 iron at the top of my set, though. You'd basically be at similar lofts but not the same clubs.

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Adams Super LS 9.5˚ driver, Aldila Phenom NL 65TX
Adams Super LS 15˚ fairway, Kusala black 72x
Adams Super LS 18˚ fairway, Aldila Rip'd NV 75TX
Adams Idea pro VST hybrid, 21˚, RIP Alpha 105x
Adams DHY 24˚, RIP Alpha 89x
5-PW Maltby TE irons, KBS C taper X, soft stepped once 130g
Mizuno T4, 54.9 KBS Wedge X
Mizuno R12 60.5, black nickel, KBS Wedge X
Odyssey Metal X #1 putter 
Bridgestone E5, Adidas samba bag, True Linkswear Stealth
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If I were you I would consider eliminating a wedge with a 52 and 58 degree set up.

TaylorMade R11S 9 Degree

TaylorMade R5 Dual 3 Wood
TaylorMade Rescue Mid 19 and 22 degree
Ping Eye 2 Plus Irons 4-SW
Odyssey White Hot 2-Ball Blade putter


Played it today and just took out the 60

Sam Gray

Whats in my :ping: Ping Hoofer Carry Bag?
Driver: :ping: Ping G25 9.5*    Shaft: Graphite Design AD DI 7x
3 Wood: :callaway: Callaway X HOT Pro 3 Deep 14.5       Shaft: Diamana Blue Board 83x
Hybrid: :adams:
 Adams A12 prototype 20*  Shaft: Aldila Rip NV blue prototype 80x
3 iron--Pitching Wedge: :mizuno: MP-64 irons 1* flat      Shafts: KBS Tour Stiff 
Wedges: :cleveland: 588 Forged 54 degree 12 degree bounce and 61 degree 9 degrees bounce   
Putter: :ping: Ping Karsten 1959 Anser 2


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