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Originally Posted by boogielicious

Except with the ProV1 type balls, I can get a 7 iron to stop after one or two hops.  The NXT Tour or similar balls will run out more, which is what I don't want on the greens.  I don't see much difference off the tee.

I agree that you have to pick a ball that you like around the green.  I am searching for the right ball now.  The ultimate ball to me would be one that lasts, one that spins the way I want around the greens, feels good off the putter and does NOT cost what a Pro V1 costs.  That can't be impossible.  The spin and durability may conflict but I could live with that.

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I like to match between green and distance, so i tend to go for a slightly less spinning ball because i produce a good amount of clubhead speed. But i feel is all about cover material, premium covers just feel better. From there i look for a lower spin ball, so i get feel and distance to match my swing.

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I found the ProV1 to be more durable than the NXT Tour.  NXT Tour would scuff more deeply.  I will keep playing the ProV1 for a few rounds as long as the scuffing does not get deep.

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Originally Posted by inthecup

I agree that you have to pick a ball that you like around the green.  I am searching for the right ball now.  The ultimate ball to me would be one that lasts, one that spins the way I want around the greens, feels good off the putter and does NOT cost what a Pro V1 costs.  That can't be impossible.  The spin and durability may conflict but I could live with that.

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Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

I select golf balls by short game and putting performance. From the tee I might as well hit a pinnacle.

On the green the prov1x is the best for me.

+1 to this. I like the V1x but I lose too many to justify buying them, even recycled. I typically favor NXTs as the best "value ball", and that judgement is based almost solely on short-game feel.

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Originally Posted by Vinchenzio45

One thing my friend and I love watching are the Taylormade driver fitting videos. Every time they come out with a new driver, Dustin Johnson hits it and pretends he's hitting it 15 yards further than the previous model, but when you watch the fitting video for the previous model, he hits it the exact same distance.

He actually hits it shorter in the the three years of R11's that came out. Hit the 1st one like 330+, the next one 315, and I guess it was this year's R1 just about 300. Look it up on youtube. It's pretty funny when you think about it.

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I begin to get confused now. Yesterday I read that mchepp hits it farther with the R1, now you loose 30 yards hitting the R11.

Why all the variance? Applying Eriks first post I would expect that you all hit them about the same distance.

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Originally Posted by Hollister

I begin to get confused now. Yesterday I read that mchepp hits it farther with the R1, now you loose 30 yards hitting the R11.

Why all the variance? Applying Eriks first post I would expect that you all hit them about the same distance.

The original R11 had the least spin because it was a smaller head, the R11s was 460cc and the R1 is generally considered a higher spin head. Aside from forgiveness, different heads vary based on their launch conditions. So that doesn't make one better than another, just a different fit.

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Originally Posted by LuciusWooding

The original R11 had the least spin because it was a smaller head, the R11s was 460cc and the R1 is generally considered a higher spin head. Aside from forgiveness, different heads vary based on their launch conditions. So that doesn't make one better than another, just a different fit.

Exactly the R1 probably just fits Mchepp better than his previous driver.

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