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Pushing balls to the right...shoulder rotation issue?

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I've had an issue where I push balls to the right and occasionally even push-slice.

After watching my swing in a full-length mirror, my hip rotation looks good, but I feel like my shoulders don't come around enough, or at least not quick enough. Could this be a culprit in this problem, or should I be looking elsewhere? Obviously video would help, but I don't have any atm...

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I don't know if this exactly relates, but Eric gave me a real good tip on that. I told him a felt like I was spinning my hips too much instead of shifting them and he gave me the image of keeping the left hip pointing to first base longer, for a righty. He also warned me that I could be snapping my left knee too aggressively, so next time I hit balls I'm going to try to calm that down. I only share this with you because I have the same problems with the pushes.
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It is not likely that it is your shoulders not rotating around enough that is causing this.  If your shoulders are more square to the ball at impact it is more likely to help draw the ball.  Whatever is happening, one thing for sure is the face is open in relation to where you are trying to start it.  I have been struggling with this a bit as well and believe it is starting to get better.  Whatever feel that is working for me is probably not what would help you though.

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Originally Posted by cipher

It is not likely that it is your shoulders not rotating around enough that is causing this.  If your shoulders are more square to the ball at impact it is more likely to help draw the ball.  Whatever is happening, one thing for sure is the face is open in relation to where you are trying to start it.  I have been struggling with this a bit as well and believe it is starting to get better.  Whatever feel that is working for me is probably not what would help you though.

Yeah I hear you, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other. It's getting better, especially with the shorter irons...just gotta hit the range with a purpose this week. I'll leave the driver at home so I don't get distracted. :)

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Originally Posted by Slice of Life

Yeah I hear you, what works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other. It's getting better, especially with the shorter irons...just gotta hit the range with a purpose this week. I'll leave the driver at home so I don't get distracted. :)

Try this drill out sometime though.

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I'll watch/listen when I get home for sure. Wanted to maybe try to get 9 in after work, but I have beach volleyball at 8...would be cutting it too close. Maybe tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Slice of Life

I've had an issue where I push balls to the right and occasionally even push-slice.

After watching my swing in a full-length mirror, my hip rotation looks good, but I feel like my shoulders don't come around enough, or at least not quick enough. Could this be a culprit in this problem, or should I be looking elsewhere? Obviously video would help, but I don't have any atm...

Yeah video would be best, also looking at practice swings can be deceiving.  If anything the hips and shoulders might be rotated too much on the downswing, path not far enough to the right.  Remember, ball starts where the face is aimed at impact.  So ideally, for a draw, we want a face aimed right of the target and the path further right of that.  How far to the right of the target are the balls starting?

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Originally Posted by mvmac

Yeah video would be best, also looking at practice swings can be deceiving.  If anything the hips and shoulders might be rotated too much on the downswing, path not far enough to the right.  Remember, ball starts where the face is aimed at impact.  So ideally, for a draw, we want a face aimed right of the target and the path further right of that.  How far to the right of the target are the balls starting?

It depends. Sometimes I'm good, sometimes off target by 15-20 yards (for a 5 or 6 iron) if I had to guess. Occasionally I'll compensate and aim left...of course then I hit an absolutely perfect shot...right where I'm aiming...lol

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Ok I'd practice hitting shots getting the hips forward (towards the target) by keeping the left knee flexed forward and flexed longer on the downswing.  See how that changes things.

I'd also take a look at this drill http://thesandtrap.com/t/61376/5sk-video-thread/90#post_836200

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