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joekelly

By joekelly
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joekelly Great Member

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Sounds ridiculous, i know. But if we were allowed to glue sandpaper onto the face of the say, 7i, would that greatly increase the spin rate of the ball?   Makes sense to me as then the grip of the grit would keep the ball on the face longer and provide more time for 'compression/deformation' and increase the spinning.

Why ask?  Well, i checked out Stadler's irons and he uses Cleveland forged with some kind of special microgrooves cut between the deep grooves.  And Cleveland claims more spin.   And Mark Crossfield tested these clubs on his machine and YES, found more spin, compared to normal irons. So i'm thinking a thin layer of epoxy sprinkled with diamond dust on my irons. Watch me spin!!


Hardballs Great Member

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I bought the cleveland wedges with the lazer milled lines between grooves, and although they appear to work, they had all but worn away after a few months, the sandpaper might last longer!

Gaz Lee


David in FL Incredible Member

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Even assuming that it would work and would be legal (it wouldn't, and isn't), why n the world would you want more spin? :-\

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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MPtheKid Dedicated Member

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Even assuming that it would work and would be legal (it wouldn't, and isn't), why n the world would you want more spin?


This. Not sure what's to be gained from getting your 7i to spin like crazy. It certainly won't help with distance. Do you really need to be backing up a 7i on the green?

 


Mr. Desmond Super Member

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Why do it? And will adding to a club face - epoxy and flakes - make the club illegal? IMO - it's just silly with all OEMs trying to creating more distance and launch with less spin. Get a urethane tour ball if you want a chance for more spin. Of course, you need swing speed to launch it high with some of those balls. If you don't, be happy with a 3 piece urethane ball that drops and stops.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

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LuciusWooding Great Member

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It would also annihilate the cover of the ball in a matter of a couple swings, which can really cost money at 4$ a ball. If you love spin so much you could look into certain types of balls that spin a ton, like ProV1s and Nike Platinums from a few years ago. Doesn't make sense to have so much spin on irons that you lose wind performance.

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Lihu Incredible Member

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I don't think the epoxy and sand would last very long. My ping I20 come with micro grooves. They seem to be designs to help give you a slight draw, and not more backspin.

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Valleygolfer Super Member

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When I was in high school they used to have a some lame ass jewelry company come in to the store I worked at and sell "Diamond dust" jewelry. I'll see if the have a load of diamond dust left over from this probably defunct business...

"My ball is on top of a rock in the hazard, do I get some sort of relief?"

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Mr. Desmond Super Member

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Novel idea .. why not rely on sound technique, modern, FITTED equipment, trajectory, and a urethane ball?

Spend time on fundamentals instead of screwing with the club face...

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David in FL Incredible Member

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True, but the better question for the OP, or any mid-high hcp player, is this..... How often, when you're hitting a mid-iron approach, do you land the ball pin-high or beyond? ;-)

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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Do you remember the "diamond coated" wedges? Didn't think so. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Pure spin... I had one a million years ago. No more spinny than any other wedge that's struck properly.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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