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Loft question - Adding hybrids to new iron set

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I was recently fit for irons by my instructor then ordered a new set of Callaway X2 Hot irons (5-AW).  I considered ordering a mixed set with the X2 hot 3-4H, but I noticed something in the loft gaps transitioning from hybrid to 5-iron that confused me and I decided to wait until I had more information.  Specifically, their 4H is 22 deg. and the 5i is 23 deg.  Their 3H is 19 deg.

My first question is whether there is any practical benefit to carrying a hybrid in my bag which is only one degree stronger than my 5-iron.  I expected to use a 3 and 4 hybrid but my initial concern is that it may not make sense to carry a 4H in this instance, much in the same way I don't keep a 5W in the bag because I play a 19 deg. hybrid.  It it does make sense to carry both clubs, could you please explain why that is the case?

Next, if it doesn't make sense to carry the 4H in this instance, what should I substitute in its place?  I should probably mention at this point that I was playing Driver, 3W (15 deg), then my 19 deg hybrid forward, and then 4 wedges (PW, AW, SW, LW).  I don't see where adding another wedge helps, so would I then bring back the 5W or maybe a 17 deg. hybrid?

Finally, I'm currently playing a 19 deg. Adams Super S XTD hybrid.  Should I expect a noticeable difference in distance and forgiveness moving to the X2 Hot?

Sorry for the multiple questions, but any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

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I was recently fit for irons by my instructor then ordered a new set of Callaway X2 Hot irons (5-AW).  I considered ordering a mixed set with the X2 hot 3-4H, but I noticed something in the loft gaps transitioning from hybrid to 5-iron that confused me and I decided to wait until I had more information.  Specifically, their 4H is 22 deg. and the 5i is 23 deg.  Their 3H is 19 deg.

My first question is whether there is any practical benefit to carrying a hybrid in my bag which is only one degree stronger than my 5-iron.  I expected to use a 3 and 4 hybrid but my initial concern is that it may not make sense to carry a 4H in this instance, much in the same way I don't keep a 5W in the bag because I play a 19 deg. hybrid.  It it does make sense to carry both clubs, could you please explain why that is the case?

Next, if it doesn't make sense to carry the 4H in this instance, what should I substitute in its place?  I should probably mention at this point that I was playing Driver, 3W (15 deg), then my 19 deg hybrid forward, and then 4 wedges (PW, AW, SW, LW).  I don't see where adding another wedge helps, so would I then bring back the 5W or maybe a 17 deg. hybrid?

Finally, I'm currently playing a 19 deg. Adams Super S XTD hybrid.  Should I expect a noticeable difference in distance and forgiveness moving to the X2 Hot?

Sorry for the multiple questions, but any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!

The Hybrid is a different type of club than the 5 iron so it's made to get the ball up in the air easier, distance is going to be noticeable between the 2 I carry my 5 iron roughly 170-180 the hybrid carries 185-200. Don't know what you will find out versus those 2 brands other than Adams is a leader in hybrid technology.

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I was recently fit for irons by my instructor then ordered a new set of Callaway X2 Hot irons (5-AW).  I considered ordering a mixed set with the X2 hot 3-4H, but I noticed something in the loft gaps transitioning from hybrid to 5-iron that confused me and I decided to wait until I had more information.  Specifically, their 4H is 22 deg. and the 5i is 23 deg.  Their 3H is 19 deg.

My first question is whether there is any practical benefit to carrying a hybrid in my bag which is only one degree stronger than my 5-iron. ...

... Finally, I'm currently playing a 19 deg. Adams Super S XTD hybrid.  Should I expect a noticeable difference in distance and forgiveness moving to the X2 Hot? ...

You need to take into account difference in shaft length. See the table below, extracted from the Callaway website:

X2.Hot Family

Club

Loft

Sh. Length

Club

Loft

Sh.Length

3H

19°

40.5”

3i

18°

39.5”

4H

22°

39.75”

4i

20.5°

38.875”

5H

25°

39”

5i

23°

38.25”

6H

28°

38.25”

6i

26°

37.625

The 4H has a shaft 1.5" longer than the 5i. This would mean an extra 10-15 in distance, which would cancel out the almost equal club lofts. You would have to do a side-by-side test of the 4H and 5i to see the actual distance difference.

For the Adams hybrid, possibly you mean the Super S? (I'm not finding a Super S XTD). Super S has a 19° loft with a 40" shaft. It has roughly the same specs as the Callaway 3H, but I don't know your Super S shaft. Again, you would have to do a side-by-side test to see the performance numbers on each.

If everything else is Callaway, you probably would want to dump the Super S unless it is really super.

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I just got the Callaway X2 Hot hybrid in 22 degree and I couldn't be happier with it.  Im taking my 4 iron out of my bag and Im strongly considering buying a 19 degree to replace my prototype utility iron.  They are by far the most user friendly hybrids Ive ever hit.  They launch very easy and are very forgiving on off center hits.  They are honestly a game changer.

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Thank you all for the input.  I had not considered the effect that a longer shaft would have in distance when comparing lofts.  I will be certain to compare the hybrid and 5-iron side-by-side and choose from there.


Thanks again.

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