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Has anyone retired their driver in favor of a 3w?

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I currently have a Cobra Amp Cell driver & Cobra Baffler T Rail 3w, and I am thinking of selling both of them and playing only a 3w. Probably a Ping G25 or i25.

Do any of you play without a driver in your bag?

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No, I would rather have wedges and short irons into par 4's than mid or long irons. If accuracy is an issue, practice or take lessons to improve your driver swing.

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I have one (driver) but, when I use it I shoot in the high 80's.

when I use my 5 iron off the tee's I can shoot 77-83.

just can never figure out the woods or hybrids at all.

never figured it out and one day a club pro said on a par 5, Matt, hit 7 iron 7 iron PW

I did and I was on in 3, had a birdie try every time since.

I could care less about getting on in 2 on a par 5. to much work and I have a bad shoulder... and all  kinds of stuff can go wrong.

I know where my 3 to 7 iron is going to go, the Driver I have no idea if its going 40 yds or 270.

(and believe me I hit my driver 30ft sometimes and still par a hole from there, par 4 or 5 ! with my irons thank you)

I hit my 7 iron 180

PW 150

5 iron 215-220

once I figured I can control my ball by just hitting irons, well, things just got easier.

and I barely swing at the ball these days (shoulder injury), they just pop off the club.

funny cuz everyone i hang with saw that, and has slowed their swing down too and all have picked up 20 yds per club.

yeah I think because I learned with a one and two iron when I was 13,is why I can hit irons, those trashcans on a stick (drivers) kinda freak me out when I swing them...

so do what feels good, long is not necessary, play the hole not your buddies...and slow that swing down and watch it fly!

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No way love my Cleveland Classic driver.  Right now I do not even own a 3 wood.  I feel that I have way more control with the 3 Hybrid I have right now.

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No, I would rather have wedges and short irons into par 4's than mid or long irons. If accuracy is an issue, practice or take lessons to improve your driver swing.

Agree right here

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I had my driver out of the bag quite a bit last year.  I was actually hitting tee shots with my Taylor Made 3 Hybrid a lot.  I am planning on taking some lessons this year, I just don't have a repeatable swing with a driver.  I just get all out of whack when trying to swing the big stick.

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No, but I did cut my driver down to 44" a few months ago. I haven't lost any distance, but I've gained some accuracy.
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Yes! I have a PING G10 driver and can't hit the thing. I've put 3 different shafts in it and don't want to spend the money to put a really good one in it. I use my Taylormade Rbz2 3 wood on every tee box that is 275+. I did however just order the Callaway X Hot driver, but I played with just my 3 wood for 2 years as I was never able to get that driver down. The G10 had its days, but that's about it. Tiger rarely uses his driver. Don't do something because your buddies do it; do what works for you! I can hit my 3 wood as far or farther than most hit their driver. So I will probably use my 3 wood on 75% of the tee boxes still.

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and I barely swing at the ball these days (shoulder injury), they just pop off the club.

funny cuz everyone i hang with saw that, and has slowed their swing down too and all have picked up 20 yds per club.

so do what feels good, long is not necessary, play the hole not your buddies...and slow that swing down and watch it fly!

Another conversation in itself, but this is so true. I played baseball for 16 years so I get that "attack" swing easily. Gotta slow it down all the time and let the sucker do the rest. When I do, 3 wood will go 275.

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I am considering cutting my driver down to 44 inches...I've been choking up on it (Titleist 909d3) and have gained distance...think I pick up clubhead speed with the more manageable (for me) shaft length...besides I grew up playing the game with the shorter steel shafts and my swing is best at this length.

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I am considering cutting my driver down to 44 inches...I've been choking up on it (Titleist 909d3) and have gained distance...think I pick up clubhead speed with the more manageable (for me) shaft length...besides I grew up playing the game with the shorter steel shafts and my swing is best at this length.

I'm not arguing by any means, but the longer the shaft, the more increased swing speed you are able to develop. Shortening the shaft or choking up on it will give you a better control and feel for the head on impact thus making cleaner contact. Maybe you are just hitting the sweet spot of the club now. But increasing your swing speed by shortening your club 2" is almost a guaranteed false comment. Then again, I haven't seen your numbers, I'm simply relying on Physics.

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I own 3 drivers, between 44.25 & 44.5, and use them all, sometimes 2 in the same round I keep retiring my 3 wood! It's a temperamental son of a bitch at best, on a good it's a rocket launcher, most days it can't get the ball of the ground, I know I'm the problem, but I just feel much more comfortable looking at my driver heads addressing the ball!
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I'm not arguing by any means, but the longer the shaft, the more increased swing speed you are able to develop. Shortening the shaft or choking up on it will give you a better control and feel for the head on impact thus making cleaner contact. Maybe you are just hitting the sweet spot of the club now. But increasing your swing speed by shortening your club 2" is almost a guaranteed false comment. Then again, I haven't seen your numbers, I'm simply relying on Physics.

It's a bit of a trade off though, by shortening 2" your likely to lose club head speed but make better contact, you good shots won't be much better, but you'll make more of them!

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No, I would rather have wedges and short irons into par 4's than mid or long irons. If accuracy is an issue, practice or take lessons to improve your driver swing.


I would say most players are no more than 20 yards longer with a driver so to say you would be hitting mid irons with a 3wood tee shot versus wedges from a driver sounds a bit inaccurate to me. Last time on a launch monitor I think my driver carried on average 235 and my 3 wood about 225. I think tomorrow though I am going to use 3 wood exclusively since I'll be playing the forward tees with my neighbor and using driver will really not be to any advantage IMO.

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Back about 1985, I sent out my driver to have a damaged grip replaced. In a supply chain mishap, my regripped driver got misrouted to an out-of-town course and was missing for about two months.

Using a 3W off the tee, I found that I actually did better on the long par 4s. I hit FWs pretty well back then, and back-to-back FWs worked better than a driver / 3i going into the greens. Also, I think I got practice benefit from hitting the 3W some 20 times a round rather than only 5 or 6. I had several scores in the low 80s during that stretch.

I got my driver back and started using it sparingly at year's end. The next year, I had amnesia about the 3W benefits and used mainly driver. I didn't get the low scores from the 3W stretch.

These days, with the high driver MOI, I find it is just as accurate as the FWs off the tee. And, I get more good run from my driver than most playing partners. On occasion, I will use a FW to lay up short of trouble, or a hybrid to get a low launch it there's a high headwind or crosswind.

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I will only speak for myself on this one...i have no driver in my bag. I use a callaway steelhead III 5w, with a stiff steel shaft. Get 225 off the tee(no tee off the deck) and fairway. Love it and will never get a driver. Just my opinion.
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That's right. I was just told today as I was regripping my driver at Dick's that the mini will drop May 2nd. Isn''t it unbelievable how often they release clubs?

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