My Swing (atrapasuenos)

[atrapasuenos]

I've been Playing Golf for: 8 years

My current handicap index or average score is: 80

My typical ball flight is: push-draw

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: push-fade

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Hi!

This is going to be a bit of a large post with some videos in it but I need your help. I'm going to start saying that I'm not playing as much as I did when I was at school. I used to play everyday and got to a +2 handicap and never got a lesson. I loved to practice and spent a lot of time in the golf course and range. My swing was not the best but it worked. And it had to do a lot with @iacas threads I read in here. Deeps hands, ball flight laws and sliding hips helped me a lot! In fact I wasn't able to hit a draw until I practiced what Erik posted.

When I finished school I came back to Mexico City and never played again for 2.5 years. The range that was near my home was closed and I had no where near to practice. This year a range open and I try to go every sunday and play when I can. But as you may know, golf is jelous and she's going to charge you for not playing.

This was my swing at what I will consider my best. Again, not the prettiest one or efficient but it worked.

My right foot has been a problem and it's something I will like to fix too.

Right now my main problem is that when I try to hit my normal trajectory, it used to be a push-draw, my ball starts right - I open the club face to start the ball to the right - but it never comes back. In fact sometimes it stays right there but most of the time it opens a bit, like 3-4 yards. Like a push-fade.

I went to a simulator that recently opened and the trajectories where those. Distance was not bad but it dosn't matter if I am off my target.

I will like to add a few videos so you can watch them and give me some advice. I really don't know what to do. And searching for a lesson in here is... going back. The guy that was there watching me and it's the "head pro" told me close the face. I squared it up and he said, no close it more so it's pointing left of your target. I got a beautiful fade. He kept blaming the clubface but I'm guessing it's the path of the swing.

Simulator 6 iron (this was not with my irons I wanted to see if the lie angle might be an issue). My clubs are +2 upright but I feel I'm standing not like I used to.

This is a 52° wedge. Punched. Cause I hit it full and hit the top of the simulator. With my wedges I don't lift my right foot a lot.

This is a series of 5 iron. He told me to close the face, I did try to change the path and did it but I don't know what I was doing. Haha! My right foot looks a bit more decent.

6 iron slow motion.

3 wood slow motion. Since the face broke and they give me a new one - they grabbed one with the same face and swithced the shaft - we been fighting. We don't love each other.

This drive was at a tournament in which I played horrible. This was the last drive of the day. Somehow this came out beautifully. Push-draw to the center of the fairway. But then again... that right foot! Ugh!

This was a beautiful pull-fade. I thought I would play horrible but kinda worked to a +2 in the front nine. Then the back nine were ruined by the shot I'm describing. Ended with a 81. Look at my right foot... ugh!

Finally this is the "best" video I currently have. A swing that I liked. It was a straight shot (8 iron) and my right foot stayed in the ground!

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[mvmac]

Quick Review

- Left hip goes down on the takeaway

- Club face and forearms will feel like they don't rotate on the takeaway

Also:

[atrapasuenos]

This is all kind of awesome! Thanks a lot! Was watching the posture thread, I think the "push the club into your belly" will help, also will try to stand a touch farther from the ball. Yesterday I was watching the videos of Golf Evolution, the tips they have for the back swing, for the weight shift and the one to keep the right toes up to start rolling the foot instead of pushing with it. Would you recommend to start adapting more to Stack and Tilt or just adapt some of those concepts to the current swing that I have? If that makes sense.

[mvmac]

Would you recommend to start adapting more to Stack and Tilt or just adapt some of those concepts to the current swing that I have?

Do you mean 5 Simple Keys?

We haven't been associated with S&T; for a few years now.

Would you recommend to start adapting more to Stack and Tilt or just adapt some of those concepts to the current swing that I have?

I would recommend you focus on your priority pieces, listed above, rather than pursue a certain swing "style". If you want to fix that right foot, start cleaning up the backswing.

[atrapasuenos]

Do you mean 5 Simple Keys? ;-) We haven't been associated with S&T; for a few years now.   [CONTENTEMBED=/t/60820/purestrike-5sk-stack-and-tilt-etc layout=inline]​[/CONTENTEMBED]  I would recommend you focus on your priority pieces, listed above, rather than pursue a certain swing "style". If you want to fix that right foot, start cleaning up the backswing.

My bad! Yes I meant the 5 Simple Keys. I tried today the "try to keep the face pointing at the ball". Wow! It was hard to get used. I will say that I couldn't get it. I slowed down my backswing and sometimes I got it right. Need to watch the video again

[atrapasuenos]

To give an update, I've been trying to keep the club head out in the backswing and lowering my left hip and trying to roll my right foot.

Can quite picture how to lower the left hip.

I recorded this two videos yesterday. Today I played a tournament and tried to apply the new stuff. It was much more consistent and with a lot of power. I hit my 6 iron 210 yards and my 5 iron 230 yards wich well wasn't the normal distances. Usually my 56° was usually for 90 yards and today I hit it 120. So, I'm doing something that is moving better that it cause a much more solid impact. Seriously, feels great when I contact the ball.

I noticed that when I get my knee going "out" trying to push, I hit the ball in the toe of the club. So I tried to hold my feet in the ground and hitit more solid.

6 iron

21 degree hybrid (you can listen here the impact, I think it sounds good)

What do you think @mvmac ? Does it look more like what you recommended me?

What drill can I do to lower the left hip? Bending my knee more?

Thanks a lot guys!

[mvmac]

What do you think @mvmac ? Does it look more like what you recommended me?

Hips look good here. I'd just like to see you stick with the "no rotation" feeling on the takeaway and try to stop the backswing about where the left pic is. Club is too far across the line on the right because the right arm flexes past 90 degrees. This causes the club head to still be too far inside the hands at A6 (club shaft parallel to the ground on the backswing).

Couple threads to help with the right arm feel

[atrapasuenos]

I used to have a shorter backswing, I don't know from where it has extended.

Now, the no rotation feeling, is giving me a hard time to picture it. Does this means I have to start with my chest or shoulders the backswing? Or with my hands? I can't quite figure it out.

[mvmac]

Now, the no rotation feeling, is giving me a hard time to picture it. Does this means I have to start with my chest or shoulders the backswing? Or with my hands? I can't quite figure it out.

It will probably feel more body and less arms. When the shaft is parallel to the ground on the takeaway, the club head shouldn't be inside the hands and toe up. To change this, feel like you don't rotate your forearms, palm of the right hand will feel like it points "down".

Good drills to check out.

http://www.golf.com/video/your-swing-made-simple

[atrapasuenos]

Nice! Will put in practice those two. I thought that trying to "rotate" my arms the other way I am used to, should give that sensation.

[mvmac]

Nice! Will put in practice those two. I thought that trying to "rotate" my arms the other way I am used to, should give that sensation.

Yes that can work as well, almost like you are "turning the steering wheel" to the left.

[atrapasuenos]

Yes that can work as well, almost like you are "turning the steering wheel" to the left.

Nice! I haven't tried this on the range. Got some videos from last session and I was dissapointed... no progress. :(

But I was watching some of your videos and I will try something tomorrow. I will try to have my knees a bit more open. Did a couple of practice swing here at home and it feels different. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Also I was watching in my videos that I tend to "sweep" the club going into the backswing. Should I try like picking it up faster and "picking it up outside" if that makes any sense?

Vids from last range session.

5 iron

5 iron "toe-ed" (?)

5 wood I won on the last tournament. Fugly swing... :( but the club feels really nice.

6 iron: this was a nice contact.

Toe-ed 6 irons...

And driver... overswinging, right foot getting up... but did I hit the propper position of A3?

[mvmac]

Also I was watching in my videos that I tend to "sweep" the club going into the backswing. Should I try like picking it up faster and "picking it up outside" if that makes any sense?

Just soften or fold the right arm sooner. Will help the club head ascend and also help you reduce the amount of forearm rotation.

[iacas]

In addition to what Mike said, mind your camera angles. Belly button height, on the toe line. Higher and out toward the ball will make the clubhead appear to be more to the inside.

[atrapasuenos]

This might be a silly question but with which hand do you control your swing? The only lesson - if can be called like that - was the one the pro of the club where I used to play, he gave me the tip to control my swing with the left hand. So I try to do evrything with my left hand. So when I'm trying to rotate my hand to point the face towards the ground on the take away, it's kind of hard.

Will try to give the "truning the steering wheel to the left" a try. I've been practiving at home and it feels that it might work.

[atrapasuenos]

Got the chance to hit some balls today... don't know how this is progressing... :(

PW

8 iron

7 iron

6 iron

5 irons... some good, some bad.

4 iron

5 wood

3 wood

Drivers

I don't remember what iron was this one

7 iron again

I think I need to do something radical to really correct this.

I think too that the take away was not that bad... but still at the top going a bit across and "swiping" the ball. Will upload some pics later.

[mvmac]

Looks better to me. How was the contact?

[atrapasuenos]

Looks better to me. How was the contact?

Woohoo! :-P Contact on the last two videos was nice, 5 wood was nice too, driver 2, 4 iron and 8 iron, contact was also good. But for example in the video of the five iron I still got that push fade, almost a push slide. :~(