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Does anyone play Cobra's Trusty Rusty wedges or Callaway's X Series JAWS and or other wedges and which ones do you like better. What is a good progression in your wedges do you think is best ---- 45-52-56 ???

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Does anyone play Cobra's Trusty Rusty wedges or Callaway's X Series JAWS and or other wedges and which ones do you like better. What is a good progression in your wedges do you think is best ---- 45-52-56 ???

I play almost exclusively with Cleveland wedges, I am quite comfortable with them. Something would have to be really special for me to replace them, I mean it would have to be significant. My inline PW club, which I consider the last of my distance clubs is 45 degrees, so my wedges is 50 degree, 54 degree and 58 deg Raw tour grind.

The trusty rusty I think I used back 25 years ago. Is it functional or a novelty item today? The Callaways, to me anyway just have too much edge on the back side of the clubs, something I never cared for.

Cleveland, titleist and the new taylormades should be considered IMO


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Does anyone play Cobra's Trusty Rusty wedges or Callaway's X Series JAWS and or other wedges and which ones do you like better. What is a good progression in your wedges do you think is best ---- 45-52-56 ???

Depending on your budget I'd suggest Edel wedges I don't have them but the fact that they basically build the clubs for you make them better than any off the shelf wedges your going to get. If they are out of your price range I would go hit the vokey SM4's. They just came out with the SM5's so you won't be paying full price for the 4's. I think the vokeys feel a lot better than the Clevelands but everyone has their own opinion.

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Does anyone play Cobra's Trusty Rusty wedges or Callaway's X Series JAWS and or other wedges and which ones do you like better. What is a good progression in your wedges do you think is best ---- 45-52-56 ???

I've only played Cleveland, and now use Vokey wedges, However, I plan to get fitted for Edel wedges. My PW is 47, so I go 50-54 and 60.

I need to get a 50, and replace my 54. The Edel's cost about 65-70.00 more per clube, but, you get a complete fitting, unlike buying a club off the rack, so to me, it's well worth the extra $$$. I think how, and where you play might figure in on what lofts and bounces you want/need.

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When getting new wedges. one thing to consider is the distance gap between your PW - normally from your iron set - and the specialty wedges (Gap, Sand and Lob).

I played a X20 Tour irons, and found I hit the 46* PW with a 35.5" long shaft about 120 yards. I looked at Cleveland CG14 wedges, and found that both GWs had 35.5" shafts, same length as PW.

Initially I tried the 52* thinking I needed more loft separation because shaft length was the same. But, the 52* only went 102 yards... the 50* went 108 yards. The Callaway PW simply had a hotter face than the Cle CG14s. So, I went with 50 | 54 | 58 for my early specialty wedge mix.

Two factors which shape wedge choice are bounce and sole grind . Your swing style (steep, medium or shallow) and the turf conditions where you play will influence your bounce and grind considerations.

Also, here are links to related articles by club designer Ralph Maltby...

And, as others have suggested, get fitted for your wedges.

Keep us posted on what you decide.

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I have played Cleveland TA5 black iron clubs since they where first new & first introduced. That was the 4 - PW and then I had all Cleveland wedges CG16 50 GW & TA 588 REG. 54 SW & TA 588 REG. 60 LOB. I just purchased a complete set of PING G20's 4-9 along with the "A" which I assume is my PW 45* & my "U" which I assume is my GW 50* .... So now I'm in need of a SW & LOB Wedge and don't hit anything 60* well at all. I just gave my son my Cleveland 54* SW and purchased a used Callaway X-Forged Vintage 58* & need to find my SW. The Callaway was purchased because of another thread on here that raved about its aggressiveness, Forgiveness and being such an awesome wedge! At this point this is where I'm at .....???? Any thoughts on that ??

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Does anyone play Cobra's Trusty Rusty wedges or Callaway's X Series JAWS and or other wedges and which ones do you like better. What is a good progression in your wedges do you think is best ---- 45-52-56 ???

The gapping can be different for every player, I go with 6 degree gaps. My pitching wedge is 46 and then my next two wedges are 52 and 58.

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The gapping can be different for every player, I go with 6 degree gaps. My pitching wedge is 46 and then my next two wedges are 52 and 58.


I'm currently at 45* 50* 54* 58*, but I'm seriously considering doing the same sort of thing, I may have 58* moved to 57* and the 54* taken down to 52* and the 45* bent  to 46* and ditch the 50*, I'm finding the 54* is being hardly used.

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Well gentlemen, my question has been answered by my wife and son who together picked out these two beautiful clubs that I received for Christmas!! I now have a 45 - 50 - 54 & 58 !! Can't wait to hit the links !!

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Enjoy them. I have a Cleveland 60/12 I use for my sand wedge. It's the cavity back version.

Julia

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The gapping can be different for every player, I go with 6 degree gaps. My pitching wedge is 46 and then my next two wedges are 52 and 58.

I have the following gaps:  47°, 52°, 60°.

Does anyone play Cobra's Trusty Rusty wedges or Callaway's X Series JAWS and or other wedges and which ones do you like better. What is a good progression in your wedges do you think is best ---- 45-52-56 ???

One other feature that is rarely mentioned. Do you look for a cavity back, perimeter weighted, wedge?

Many people feel that perimeter weighting is much less advantageous in shot irons and wedges than in the longer clubs. (I found this to be the case when I bought my first cavity back irons in 1991. I continued to use the 7-pw from my old set and 3-6 irons from my new set.) However, as I got older I found that I needed the forgiveness of perimeter weighting in my shorter clubs, too. Now, in my 60's, I couldn't imagine buying anything but cavity backs, including my wedges.

One final note: In 1990, I decided to try using a lob wedge. I bought a top-of-the-line Ping BeCu Eye 2+, and it hasn't left my bag for the last 25 years. I found that the Ping lob wedge was more effective out of the sand and heavy rough than blades. My gap/sand wedges for many years were Cleveland blades, until I went to a Ping BeCu ISI 54° cavity back sand wedge.

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Got my 50 degree and now have 50, 54, and 60..which fills my gaps pretty nice.

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What degree is your Ping Gap wedge if your sand is 54*

They are one and the same. My Ping BeCu ISI is 52° which can either be called a strong sand wedge or gap wedge. Ping also made an S2 (54.5°) and S3 (57°) in 1998, but did not call them anything but sand wedges.

My ISI BeCu wedge is a black dot and 52°.

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I'm in the weird situation that I got the Top Flite XL starter set last Xmas and the 9i is 42 degrees but they include one wedge that is 50 degrees which is essentially a gap wedge. So MY 3 cleveland wedges are 46-54-58. I'm thinking of buying another 54 degree wedge with low bounce since I have a shallow swing and usually play in firm conditions. I'm on a limited budget and having trouble finding cleveland wedges that are 54 degrees with low bounce (I'm also a lefty which makes selection limited as well). Anybody it the NIke Covert wedges? Saw one on GG for 29.99.

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Hybrid: Callaway Mavrik 20*

Irons: Callaway Rogue X 5i-GW

Wedges: Vokey SM8 54*S and 58*K

Putter: Ping Prime Tyne 4


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I'm in the weird situation that I got the Top Flite XL starter set last Xmas and the 9i is 42 degrees but they include one wedge that is 50 degrees which is essentially a gap wedge. So MY 3 cleveland wedges are 46-54-58. I'm thinking of buying another 54 degree wedge with low bounce since I have a shallow swing and usually play in firm conditions. I'm on a limited budget and having trouble finding cleveland wedges that are 54 degrees with low bounce (I'm also a lefty which makes selection limited as well). Anybody it the NIke Covert wedges? Saw one on GG for 29.99.

I have done very good finding clubs under the "Buy It Now" Tab in the eBay store !! I would try there !!


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I have done very good finding clubs under the "Buy It Now" Tab in the eBay store !! I would try there !!

The thing I forgot to mention is that I have a gift cert to GG from Xmas...

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The thing I forgot to mention is that I have a gift cert to GG from Xmas...

I would just keep checking back there. Also, maybe contact them asking if they had any wedges come in that aren't on the website yet.

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