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Ben Crane Intentionally Drives Wrong Fairway

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For some reason, I thought the USGA changed the rule so that only players in the group playing, as well as their caddies, could move it. I guess not. With high probability, I stand corrected.

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For some reason, I thought the USGA changed the rule so that only players in the group playing, as well as their caddies, could move it. I guess not. With high probability, I stand corrected.

Change it to "with certainty." The rule wasn't changed. It's a myth.

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With certainty, I stand corrected. I hope I remember to get this right next time it comes up. Apologies to anyone I misled.

-- Michael | My swing! 

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Originally Posted by luu5

I am not so sure about this. Internal OB does not "look good", but other than that it is like normal OB, "you are not supposed to go there". Of course it may make course much tighter, but then play safer...

I think the USGA tries actively to discourage courses from doing this. There are other ways, such as high trees to separate the two holes.

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Originally Posted by Lastpick

I think that teeing your ball on a pencil is no longer legal.  There is a maximum length for a tee.  I also think that have the crowd assist you in moving a huge rock is no longer allowed.  I don't think that rock that Tiger moved would meet the current definition of loose impediment.

Correct. Tiger-moved-a-big-rock-with-help-gate caused the USGA (and R&A;) to revise the definition of loose impediment. What he did was legal when he did it.

But sometimes, that's what gets a rule changed -- a highly publicized incident where the rules don't fit together the way the rules committee intends them to. Stewart Cink's DQ a few years ago for raking sand has become a legal move.

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Originally Posted by AmazingWhacker

At least it was Ben Crane.  If it was Tiger, Phil or Rory then chances are the little back-and-forth munis I like to play would become very dangerous places.  Well . .on the other hand, if more golfers started aiming for alternate fairways . .would that mean more or less balls landing in alternate fairways?  Not sure.

If it's anything like the muni players I see, maybe aiming at adjacent fairways -- especially fairways off to the left -- would improve the percent of fairways hit... that belong to the hole being played!

This decision has been in the book since before I got my first Decisions book in 1997, only instead of a rock, the decision involved a tree that was too large for the player to move by himself.  They dropped that one and replaced it with the Tiger decision because that one was causing so much controversy.

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This decision has been in the book since before I got my first Decisions book in 1997, only instead of a rock, the decision involved a tree that was too large for the player to move by himself.  They dropped that one and replaced it with the Tiger decision because that one was causing so much controversy.

Huh. So they did change something, but it wasn't the rule, it was the example in the decisions. Thanks!

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