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I just recently found out ( I know how stupid I am ) that over 90% of the PGA tour players actually OVERLAP rather than interlock, except Tiger and Nicklaus who interlocks..

I tried it a couple times and almost found out overlapping feels a little better, but I have been interlocking for years and I just don't know if there really is any difference.

What kind of person should interlock vs overlap.

Discuss..

Obviously this is about grip :)

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I always used an overlapping grip up until a year ago when I hurt my left index finger playing flag football. It was painful to practice, but I could use the interlocking grip without pain. I switched, and haven't gone back.

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I always used an overlapping grip up until a year ago when I hurt my left index finger playing flag football. It was painful to practice, but I could use the interlocking grip without pain. I switched, and haven't gone back.

So you like interlocking better now? Any difference in swing or ball movement between the two? Do you find it better? Just looking for opinions. Thanks

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Interlocking. That's how I was taught. Never thought about nor tried out the overlap.

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I started out interlocking but switched to overlap. When I dinged my left index finger this summer I had to temporarily switch back and nothing really changed. When my little injury healed, I switched back to overlapping without noticing. I don't think it changes my swing or result at all, whatever feels better to the individual IMO.

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I started out interlocked, just because it seems like beginners get a lot of weird golf advice, and among that is usually, "yeah, and you lock these two fingers..." I switched to overlap quite a while back and haven't really questioned it since. However, I must say, hard not to go back and take a look at interlock if Tiger uses it......

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I've always heard that the interlock grip was for people with smaller hands. I used it when I was younger, but once my hands got to a certain size, I switched to the overlap.
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I've always heard that the interlock grip was for people with smaller hands. I used it when I was younger, but once my hands got to a certain size, I switched to the overlap.

That's what I've always read. I've always had somewhat smaller hands and have always used the interlock. I think it just goes back to what you feel most connected to the club with.

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I've used both with the same amount of sucess (none, lol). I think it just comed down to preference. I read somewhere that Jim Furyk overlaps 2 fingers.

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I was originally an interlocker when I was a kid, then went to overlap and back to interlock about 6 years ago. I just feel natural with it...seem to be better connected. I also though have smaller hands it seems so it works better. I would say that if you have bulky thick hands overlap is a better solution regardsless if Tiger does it or not.

Furyk does overlap 2 fingers...FYI.

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I've used both with the same amount of sucess (none, lol). I think it just comed down to preference. I read somewhere that Jim Furyk overlaps 2 fingers.

really, i heard that furyk doesn't connect his fingers at all, just uses a 'baseball' style grip(of course with his hands in the right positions and such)

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I don't interlock or overlap, it feels sooo uncomfortable. I still do the other parts of the grip just fine, but not the thumbs.

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I use overlap because interlock hurts my fingers, and overlap also feels more comforatable to me. And Jim Furyk overlaps 2 fingers, if you watch closely in an event you can see the 2 fingers overlapped.

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Interlock since i started

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I just recently found out ( I know how stupid I am ) that over 90% of the PGA tour players actually OVERLAP rather than interlock, except Tiger and Nicklaus who interlocks..

I've heard that larger hands are better for an overlapping grip, and smaller for the interlock. It makes some sense - with an interlocking grip I feel like I'm going to lose the club, and swing like a little puppy as a result. And it really tears up my fingers. So I went to a baseball grip, and then a pro changed mine to an overlap. Been there ever since, and I've probably shaved 40 strokes off my game as a result.

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I use the overlap. I haven't really thought about it in years as there hasn't been an issue for me.

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really, i heard that furyk doesn't connect his fingers at all, just uses a 'baseball' style grip(of course with his hands in the right positions and such)

No, just about the opposite... Furyk uses a double overlap: both his pinkie and ring finger on his right hand overlap.

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I use an overlap grip. I have tried it all, but overlap is just the most comfortable and best for me.
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