Are golfers more intelligent than other athletes?

[Lihu]

6 minutes ago, Golfingdad said:

Uh huh .  Don't play that game again by moving the goalposts.  You said golf is harder at the higher levels ... and it is, but so is every other sport (and non sport) on the freaking planet. The specific type of skil set is entirely irrelevant to that argument.  

And again, that argument has nothing to do with intelligence.

That was a mistake, I meant to argue that golf at the highest level takes more intelligence on average than other sports at the highest level on average.

Not moving any goalposts. . .I don't try to play games as you stated. So, not sure what you mean by "again"? Taking personal jabs over this discussion is not really appropriate.

[Golfingdad]

1 hour ago, Lihu said:

That was a mistake, I meant to argue that golf at the highest level takes more intelligence on average than other sports at the highest level on average.

Not moving any goalposts. . .I don't try to play games as you stated. So, not sure what you mean by "again"? Taking personal jabs over this discussion is not really appropriate.

Dude, it's not at all personal.  I'm just saying that you can't change your argument midstream.  And you even admitted above that is what you did.  Just say my mistake, I meant to say blah blah blah rather than try to bend what you said.

[rkim291968]

3 hours ago, Lihu said:

Martial arts, boxing and fencing do this to an extreme level, but the movements one makes to block and attack are trained reactions and not methodically thought out movements. It's not "strategy" in a traditional sense. It's more like tactical movements, which are drilled into the "muscle memory".

 

Well, when one gets into a match, especially with a known opponent, you need to lay out a plan to beat the opponent.  In a pro fight that goes 12 rounds, each boxer and his team carefully plans out what to do on each round.  It takes a collective intelligence.   That takes some amount of intelligence, no less or better than a golfer does in a tournament.  Golfers may be better educated than boxers but that does not equate to their being more intelligent than other athletes.  

 

[Lihu]

1 hour ago, Golfingdad said:

Dude, it's not at all personal.  I'm just saying that you can't change your argument midstream.  And you even admitted above that is what you did.  Just say my mistake, I meant to say blah blah blah rather than try to bend what you said.

Dude, I wasn't trying to bend anything. If I had that good a command of the English language, I wouldn't be struggling to write any posts.

[tristanhilton85]

5 minutes ago, Lihu said:

Dude, I wasn't trying to bend anything. If I had that good a command of the English language, I wouldn't be struggling to write any posts.

That's crap. Especially when you try to pull it when many of us have met you. Your command of the English language is just fine.

[Lihu]

46 minutes ago, rkim291968 said:

 

Well, when one gets into a match, especially with a known opponent, you need to lay out a plan to beat the opponent.  In a pro fight that goes 12 rounds, each boxer and his team carefully plans out what to do on each round.  It takes a collective intelligence.   That takes some amount of intelligence, no less or better than a golfer does in a tournament.  Golfers may be better educated than boxers but that does not equate to their being more intelligent than other athletes.  

 

Agree, but the strategies are not that complicated. There's only one opponent.

Look, I'm not trying to say golfers are ungodly more intelligent as compared to other athletes. Just more intelligent because there are many more factors to consider.

I play golf with scratch level players at least once a week, and ask some of them about their decisions.  Their answers are generally much more articulate than I expect from participants of many other sports I've played. I've played lots of sports too.

Come to think of it, this is the longest I've been captivated by any other sport. Mainly because it takes a lot more effort to learn. Why is that?

[JonMA1]

2 hours ago, Lihu said:

I've not played at that high a level to even imagine what sorts of situations a golfer needs to extricate themselves. Also, not sure this situation would be all that tough a decision for a pro golfer?

Then I don't understand your point. There's risk vs reward and knowing one's ability. I'm not sure that's a true test of higher intelligence.

Sorry @Lihu, I didn't see all the other responses and don't mean to pile on. I'm ok just disagreeing since I don't really know that much about golf at a higher level.

[Lihu]

11 minutes ago, tristanhilton85 said:

That's crap. Especially when you try to pull it when many of us have met you. Your command of the English language is just fine.

I'll take that as a compliment. I'm trying. . .

Read some of my first posts, they were definitely language challenged. 

9 minutes ago, JonMA1 said:

Then I don't understand your point. There's risk vs reward and knowing one's ability. I'm not sure that's a true test of higher intelligence.

Not sure what point I made, either?

So, the way I look at it, it takes a lot of thought to make some shots. You have to look at the lie, the stuff under the ball and in front of it, the surrounding area and the landing area. That's why many people I've played with kick their balls in play. It takes too much effort for some of them to play as it lies. I asked a few people why they do it. They answered that they play for fun, and not to think too much.

I might ask too many questions, actually.