Over the top

[payne7744]

 I can't seem to get rid of this problem. (8hcp 59yrs)   I just had another lesson with video I get to the top ok then the head moves forward with the right shoulder, the miss is now a pull left.  I work on rotating back not sliding,  dropping my hands low and close from the top, keeping my back to the target longer  and of course starting the swing from the ground up among many other drills and swing thoughts for many years. As an 8hcp.  I'm managing but feel this is what's keeping me from being a low single digit.  Any ideas? Thanks

Mike

[Natural Patrick]

9 minutes ago, payne7744 said:

 I can't seem to get rid of this problem. (8hcp 59yrs)   I just had another lesson with video I get to the top ok then the head moves forward with the right shoulder, the miss is now a pull left.  I work on rotating back not sliding,  dropping my hands low and close from the top, keeping my back to the target longer  and of course starting the swing from the ground up among many other drills and swing thoughts for many years. As an 8hcp.  I'm managing but feel this is what's keeping me from being a low single digit.  Any ideas? Thanks

Mike

I'm not sure but, I love that golf cart!

[Hardspoon]

17 minutes ago, payne7744 said:

among many other drills and swing thoughts for many years. 

You should get (or post) good video of your swing and create a MySwing thread here on TST.  There are some great golfers and instructors on here, and they're generally willing to help out.  Maybe you have too many "thoughts" clogging your head at this point, and it'd be a good way to press the "reset" button.

Also: I'm disappointed that this wasn't a thread about the Sylvester Stallone movie. 

[Snipehook16]

On August 14, 2016 at 6:37 PM, payne7744 said:

 I can't seem to get rid of this problem. (8hcp 59yrs)   I just had another lesson with video I get to the top ok then the head moves forward with the right shoulder, the miss is now a pull left.  I work on rotating back not sliding,  dropping my hands low and close from the top, keeping my back to the target longer  and of course starting the swing from the ground up among many other drills and swing thoughts for many years. As an 8hcp.  I'm managing but feel this is what's keeping me from being a low single digit.  Any ideas? Thanks

Mike

Mike, I'm in the same exact boat as you....I'm an 8 handicap as well and suffer from the same devistating move, over the top pull/pull hook to the left. I also slide back so when I start my downswing I feel so stuck that I have to come over the top. I haven't seen the inside quarter of the golf ball in months. I played a round a few months back where I had got rid of it and my swing was working so nice inside to out, shot 74. But of course I go back to it because my swing is so grooved that way. Hope you can figure it out buddy, those low numbers are waiting for you. 

[dmnoland]

Youtube has alot of drills about this. The one I like is to tee up 2 balls 2 inches apart. Set up normally to the outside one but hit the inside one.

[Marty2019]

On 8/14/2016 at 9:37 PM, payne7744 said:

 I can't seem to get rid of this problem. (8hcp 59yrs)   I just had another lesson with video I get to the top ok then the head moves forward with the right shoulder, the miss is now a pull left.  I work on rotating back not sliding,  dropping my hands low and close from the top, keeping my back to the target longer  and of course starting the swing from the ground up among many other drills and swing thoughts for many years. As an 8hcp.  I'm managing but feel this is what's keeping me from being a low single digit.  Any ideas? Thanks

Mike

Let me start by saying that obviously you are a better player than I am, but I wanted to chip in my experience with the over-the-top swing flaw. 

I suspected from seeing my divot path that I was coming over the top but I didn't realize how bad my over the top problem was until I video'd my swing and looked at it.  Yikes! 

I tried a lot of things to cure it, but the one thing that seems to work for me is to think Jim Furyk.   What does his downswing look like?   The one thing I think of when I think of his swing is the way his right elbow tucks into his side on the downswing.    I have a flying right elbow, but if I get it tucked into my side on the downswing, it seems to trigger a lot of good things: my hips slide forward instead of spinning, my shoulders don't turn prematurely, my weight slides forward, club moves downward instead of outward, and I get much greater lag.   The club gets into the slot.  

That's what I think has largely alleviated my over the top problem: getting my right elbow tucked in.  It's a work in progress, but I'm hitting the ball a lot farther and straighter than before.