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In the picture my hands look..  far apart, or separated, or not tight..  or something.  Doesn’t feel that way though. 
 

I’d guess there’s an issue there. 

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15 minutes ago, iacas said:

Pretty weak. I'd likely strengthen it a bit.

Wait..  what? I went from possibly the most ridiculously strong grip on this site to pretty weak?   This effin game, man.  

means I should probably post more.  At some point I’d guess it was right.  
 

anyways..  Left hand or right hand or both is too weak? 

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:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
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14 minutes ago, lastings said:

In the picture my hands look..  far apart, or separated, or not tight..  or something.  Doesn’t feel that way though. 
 

I’d guess there’s an issue there. 

Do you by any chance practice your grip without a club in your hands and end up using your left thumb as “the club” under the right hand? Because I know a guy that used to do that and that’s how his hands ended up too far apart from each other.

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6 minutes ago, billchao said:

Do you by any chance practice your grip without a club in your hands and end up using your left thumb as “the club” under the right hand? Because I know a guy that used to do that and that’s how his hands ended up too far apart from each other.

All the time.   Not practice, per say.  But, you know.  

Ok.  So my wife is on the mood to take pictures..  so.. ?  
 

 

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Left (top) looks pretty strong there, or, no? 

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:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

check out my swing here

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10 hours ago, lastings said:

All the time.   Not practice, per say.  But, you know.  

Ok.  So my wife is on the mood to take pictures..  so.. ?  
 

 

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Left (top) looks pretty strong there, or, no? 

It would be better to see a full face on so we can see where the V in your right hand is pointing. If it is at your right shoulder, very strong. Mid collar bone, strong, ear, neutral, chin, weak.

Also, get a photo of the bottom to show your interlock or overlap and maybe a side view.

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11 hours ago, lastings said:

All the time.   Not practice, per say.  But, you know.  

Ok.  So my wife is on the mood to take pictures..  so.. ?  
 

 

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Left (top) looks pretty strong there, or, no? 

Looks like the left is too strong and the right is too weak.

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  • 1 month later...

Well..  stuck in the house, might as well work on my swing.  
 

kinda tough getting good video in the garage.  Gonna have to work on the DTL set up.  But, for now, here’s what I’ve got.  
 

 

 

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:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
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16 hours ago, lastings said:

Well..  stuck in the house, might as well work on my swing.  
 

kinda tough getting good video in the garage.  Gonna have to work on the DTL set up.  But, for now, here’s what I’ve got.  
 

 

 

Try aiming the camera along your toe line for the down the line view. It’s easier to see the positions that way.

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1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

Try aiming the camera along your toe line for the down the line view. It’s easier to see the positions that way.

Will do later today. 

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:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
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Alright..  fixed up the DTL.  Moved camera to my toe line.  
 

 

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:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

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18 hours ago, lastings said:

Alright..  fixed up the DTL.  Moved camera to my toe line.  
 

 

Looks good, man. What are you working on now? What's your flight? What's your miss?

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34 minutes ago, billchao said:

Looks good, man.

Thanks.

34 minutes ago, billchao said:

What are you working on now?

have been working on Grip quite a bit.   pretty comfortable with where it is now.   mostly focused on swing speed, currently (superspeed sticks).   

--also, chipping and putting.  could use some improvement there, and it's good to work on while stuck at home.

37 minutes ago, billchao said:

What's your flight? What's your miss?

medium trajectory draw with the irons.  Driver is pretty much dead straight.

my miss is rarely a ball flight miss (hook or slice).   I'll pull one every now and then.  or block a driver out to the right.   
but, mostly my misses are fat or thin (which I think can't be attributed to the really bad grip I was working with).   hopefully, now that I'm more comfortable with a more neutral grip and more in my fingers, I'll see some improvement there.   

:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

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  • 1 year later...

Back at it again.  
 

did a bit of work today and was able to video.  Though, given the proximity of they bays at the dome, pretty much impossible to get a face on view.     I’ll try to get one if I can ever get bay #1.   
 

anyways, here’s a 6i DTL. 
 

 

:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

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Just looking back at this thread, and my swing from 5 years ago..  those suggestions from @iacas made quite a bit of sense.  
 

not to say I immediately changed or even followed his suggestions.  But, I’ve gone from a 12 handicap to a 7ish in that time and my swing has clearly changed.    And my swing is at least closer to what was suggested.  
 

changing a golf swing is hard, making changes that make you worse before you get better is even harder.  
I wonder if I’ll ever have the mental capacity to allow myself to be a stupid monkey.  

:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

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13 hours ago, iacas said:

Whatcha working on currently?

Towards the end of the season my swing had grown a bit too far in-to-out and “under the line”   I was playing a pretty exaggerated draw with my irons, predictably causing hooky and fat misses.

 I can get it back on track reasonably well by just hitting the range and alternating draws and fades.  
 

then after that, hitting about 20 drivers trying to max out ball speed.  As I work to swing faster, my attack angle tends to flatten out and my launch angle will drop to around 10 degrees.  So, just trying to be mindful of continuing to hit up on the ball while working to increase speed.  
 

I had a few yesterday with 163 ball speed and launch angle of 13, 14 degrees, which I was super happy with. 

:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

check out my swing here

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Were I you I'd put a stick on the ground and feel the hands going back along it instead of "out" and then having to suck "around" so much.

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

Thanks.

Were I you I'd put a stick on the ground and feel the hands going back along it instead of "out" and then having to suck "around" so much.

Thank you.    I was thinking that first move out was looking not so appealing.     Thanks for the input.  I’ll get to work. 

:tmade:  - SIM2 - Kuro Kage silver 60 shaft
:cobra:  - F9 3W, 15 degree - Fukijara Atmos white tour spec stiff flex shaft

:tmade: - M2 hybrid, 19 degree
:tmade: - GAPR 3 iron - 18degree
:mizuno: MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

Miura - 1957 series k-grind - 56 degree
:bettinardi: - 52 degree
:titleist: - Scotty Cameron Newport 2 - Putter

check out my swing here

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