Princeton University Banning the Word ‘Man’

[iacas]

7 hours ago, newtogolf said:

I agree not everything is the start of a slippery slope but we've seen the PC push in other areas and get their way so it's not like a precedent hasn't been established.  

A precedent was established when we as a culture stopped using words like "retarded" or "faggot" too.

(I was guilty of using the first when I was a kid.)

[boogielicious]

7 hours ago, newtogolf said:

I don't have any tin foil hats that would fit your head.  

I agree not everything is the start of a slippery slope but we've seen the PC push in other areas and get their way so it's not like a precedent hasn't been established.  

FWIW, this is a very similar approach that the multi-national Fortune 500 company I work for has. We also have zero-tolerance on harassment.

[Lihu]

On 8/19/2016 at 0:58 PM, Valleygolfer said:

So should "Princeton" be called "Heirofroyaltyton?"

Nah, "PotentialHeiroftheMonarchButPossiblyJustEarloftheKingdomFromWhichOurNationWasFreedFromTyranny-ton" or simply just P-ton. . .

[newtogolf]

2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

FWIW, this is a very similar approach that the multi-national Fortune 500 company I work for has. We also have zero-tolerance on harassment.

Scott, I fully get that, certain words are offensive and should be treated with zero tolerance.  We're talking about words like "mankind" and "layman" 

These are not offensive words and to anyone that is offended I suggest they look up their official meanings and not just be offended by the presence of "man" in the word.  I'll even give them a pass on "best man for the job" unless we're talking about a job only men can do like NFL football player.  

I watched Hard Knocks (LA Rams) last night and the Greg Williams had a great quote that he used after a cuss filled rant where many of the rookies looked like they were about to cry cause he hurt their feelings.  After he told them to toughen up he said, "People that have enabled you your entire life and disabled you for the future."  

If these words offend people then we're about to rewrite the entire dictionary because once we start removing these words from our daily use someone will move on and find a bunch more.  

[boogielicious]

7 minutes ago, newtogolf said:

Scott, I fully get that, certain words are offensive and should be treated with zero tolerance.  We're talking about words like "mankind" and "layman" 

These are not offensive words and to anyone that is offended I suggest they look up their official meanings and not just be offended by the presence of "man" in the word.  I'll even give them a pass on "best man for the job" unless we're talking about a job only men can do like NFL football player.  

I watched Hard Knocks (LA Rams) last night and the Greg Williams had a great quote that he used after a cuss filled rant where many of the rookies looked like they were about to cry cause he hurt their feelings.  After he told them to toughen up he said, "People that have enabled you your entire life and disabled you for the future."  

If these words offend people then we're about to rewrite the entire dictionary because once we start removing these words from our daily use someone will move on and find a bunch more.  

I understand your point. But I am stating that my company uses the same approach. They try and make HR statements generic and gender neutral like "best employee for the job".  So it is not isolated to college campuses. I would even suggest that businesses like my company have been doing this a lot longer. People in this thread are making a PC fuss about Princeton, when in really, Princeton is just catching up now.

I will add that it doesn't bother me either way. It also reminds me of this scene in Life of Brian.

 

[Lihu]

10 hours ago, newtogolf said:

Scott, I fully get that, certain words are offensive and should be treated with zero tolerance.  We're talking about words like "mankind" and "layman" 

These are not offensive words and to anyone that is offended I suggest they look up their official meanings and not just be offended by the presence of "man" in the word.  I'll even give them a pass on "best man for the job" unless we're talking about a job only men can do like NFL football player.  

I watched Hard Knocks (LA Rams) last night and the Greg Williams had a great quote that he used after a cuss filled rant where many of the rookies looked like they were about to cry cause he hurt their feelings.  After he told them to toughen up he said, "People that have enabled you your entire life and disabled you for the future."  

If these words offend people then we're about to rewrite the entire dictionary because once we start removing these words from our daily use someone will move on and find a bunch more.  

Well put, and that quote really reflects a lot of things that are happening to our youth.

[jamo]

10 hours ago, newtogolf said:

Scott, I fully get that, certain words are offensive and should be treated with zero tolerance.  We're talking about words like "mankind" and "layman" 

These are not offensive words and to anyone that is offended I suggest they look up their official meanings and not just be offended by the presence of "man" in the word.  I'll even give them a pass on "best man for the job" unless we're talking about a job only men can do like NFL football player.  

I watched Hard Knocks (LA Rams) last night and the Greg Williams had a great quote that he used after a cuss filled rant where many of the rookies looked like they were about to cry cause he hurt their feelings.  After he told them to toughen up he said, "People that have enabled you your entire life and disabled you for the future."  

If these words offend people then we're about to rewrite the entire dictionary because once we start removing these words from our daily use someone will move on and find a bunch more.  

Point taken, but Gregg Williams also once said:

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We've got to do everything in the world to make sure we kill Frank Gore's head. We want him running sideways. We want his head sideways.

So he's not exactly someone I personally look to for guidance. 

[Shindig]

20 minutes ago, jamo said:

Point taken, but Gregg Williams also once said:

So he's not exactly someone I personally look to for guidance. 

I was prepared to go searching for that quote until I saw your post.  Thanks for finding it.

Gregg Williams knows a thing or two about disabling people for the future.