Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 3360 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted

Recently, there was a post of using hybrid, fairway wood, or iron as an approach on the putting surface. Nothing new about that of course, but I happened to run across the same suggestion on one of Martin Chuck's short game videos. He referred to it as "the Carnoustie" and demonstrated by taking your normal stance and then walking the club up onto its toe to achieve a putting stance.  I just had not heard the term before (I live a sheltered life, I guess).  In any event, it helps, especially if one has the "jitters".  I wonder where he got the term. Was it from The Open Course or an individual?

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted
3 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

  I wonder where he got the term. Was it from The Open Course or an individual?

I've never once heard that term applied to a shot, any shot.  I wonder if he simply made it up.

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
Just now, DaveP043 said:

I've never once heard that term applied to a shot, any shot.  I wonder if he simply made it up.

Dunno...or maybe it was a different term. I will have to look at the video again and listen to it.  He often puts a few "quirks" in his discussions. I remember one time, a guy from the UK took offense at his saying "Now that shot had some "Cheese" on it. He was referring to his high, spin, pitch shot.

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I have never heard of it having a name, but I have heard of gripping down on a hybrid and making a putting stroke if your ball is in some thicker rough just off the green.

- Shane

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
1 minute ago, CarlSpackler said:

I have never heard of it having a name, but I have heard of gripping down on a hybrid and making a putting stroke if your ball is in some thicker rough just off the green.

Precisely, I just liked the method he takes in taking the stance by "walking" it up to a more vertical position. also @DaveP043 I double checked, and yes that was the term he used. (probably made up as you said).

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted

Might just be a local term.  I know at my home club we refer to certain actions by the guy's name who does it most often.  When a guy says "great shot" as the ball sails towards the trees, its called "____-ing" you.  I've left the actual name out, in case he ever reads this.  One lucky guy has had several actions named after him, so we have to say "___ing your line" (walking across your line, then doing the funky chicken and making it worse once he realizes he's done it) or "___ing his card"  (sitting in the corner with pencil and erasor for 5 minutes before coming to settle the bets) just to be clear.  I'm sure some day I'll use one of those terms around strangers, and they'll have no clue what I'm talking about.

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
1 minute ago, DaveP043 said:

Might just be a local term.  I know at my home club we refer to certain actions by the guy's name who does it most often.  When a guy says "great shot" as the ball sails towards the trees, its called "____-ing" you.  I've left the actual name out, in case he ever reads this.  One lucky guy has had several actions named after him, so we have to say "___ing your line" (walking across your line, then doing the funky chicken and making it worse once he realizes he's done it) or "___ing his card"  (sitting in the corner with pencil and erasor for 5 minutes before coming to settle the bets) just to be clear.  I'm sure some day I'll use one of those terms around strangers, and they'll have no clue what I'm talking about.

ha ha...what can I say....Canadiens you know  (Ducking for cover).

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted
1 minute ago, Hacker James said:

ha ha...what can I say....Canadiens you know  (Ducking for cover).

I'm not Canadian!!  If I was, I'd have said "aboot, eh" instead of "about".

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted (edited)

I know you're not eh? but Martin Chuck is, along with several you tube golf instructors and let us not forget the Mighty Moe...

4 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

oops, wrong key...please disregard

 

Edited by Hacker James

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I have tried this technique and find distance control to be difficult. I'm sure with practice, like everything else, I could dial it it.

- Shane

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
Just now, CarlSpackler said:

I have tried this technique and find distance control to be difficult. I'm sure with practice, like everything else, I could dial it it.

fur shure.....Tiger used to use a 3 wood often in these situations

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator
Posted

Heck, from everything I read, lots of us US folks may become Canadian, depending on the November results.

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted (edited)

you've got a point there....I need to check to see if my passport is up to date (although I don't think you even need one to enter Canada) but always go to Colorado and become a "Free" man

Edited by Hacker James

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
2 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

fur shure.....Tiger used to use a 3 wood often in these situations

I never liked that method either. I popped too many off the top of my 3w as it slid underneath. The longer shaft just makes it harder to control IMO, even if you are gripping down.

3 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Heck, from everything I read, lots of us US folks may become Canadian, depending on the November results.

That would be nice. :-D

- Shane

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

Okay guys, I/we are getting OT....here come da judge!

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
4 minutes ago, Hacker James said:

Okay guys, I/we are getting OT....here come da judge!

Sorry. Didn't mean to mention the 3-wood. :-P

- Shane

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted

I have done a similar stroke with a 6 or 7 iron... the putting stroke when a foot or two off the edge of the green.  Gets it over the grass and it rolls to the hole.  I cant remember where I saw it.  Have used it quite a few times.

Driver: :callaway: Diablo
Woods: :callaway: Big Bertha 2 & 4
Irons: Miura MC 102's 3 - PW & Mizuno MP 67's 3 - W
Wedges: :mizuno: MP-R12 52* & 58*
Putters: :ping: WRX Ti4

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
13 minutes ago, Vinny Cap said:

I have done a similar stroke with a 6 or 7 iron... the putting stroke when a foot or two off the edge of the green.  Gets it over the grass and it rolls to the hole.  I cant remember where I saw it.  Have used it quite a few times.

that's a lot easier than trying to blade it, or hit from the sole as some of the bygone era golfers did. (some still do, I surmize).

"James"

:titleist: 913 D3 with Aldila RIP Phenom 60 4,2 Regular Shaft,  :touredge: Exotics XCG-7 Beta 3W with Matrix Red Tie Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX8 19 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3 Shaft:touredge: Exotics EX9 28 deg Hybrid w UST Mamiya Recoil F3  shaft, / Bobby Jones Black 22 deg Hybrid:touredge: Exotics EXi 6 -PW  w UST Mamiya Recoil F2 Shaft, SW (56),GW (52),LW (60):touredge:  TGS),/ ODDYSEE Metal-X #7 customized putter (400G, cut down Mid Belly)

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 3360 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 11: did mirror work for a while. Worked on the same stuff. 
    • I'm not sure you're calculating the number of strokes you would need to give correctly. The way I figure it, a 6.9 index golfer playing from tees that are rated 70.8/126 would have a course handicap of 6. A 20-index golfer playing from tees that are rated 64/106 would have a course handicap of 11. Therefore, based on the example above, assuming this is the same golf course and these index & slope numbers are based on the different tees, you should only have to give 5 strokes (or one stroke on the five most difficult holes if match play) not 6. Regardless, I get your point...the average golfer has no understanding of how the system works and trying to explain it to people, who haven't bothered to read the documentation provided by either the USGA or the R&A, is hopeless. In any case, I think the WHS as it currently is, does the best job possible of leveling the playing field and I think most golfers (obviously, based on the back & forth on this thread, not all golfers) at least comprehend that.   
    • Day 115 12-5 Skills work tonight. Mostly just trying to be more aware of the shaft and where it's at. Hit foam golf balls. 
    • Day 25 (5 Dec 25) - total rain day, worked on tempo and distance control.  
    • Yes it's true in a large sample like a tournament a bunch of 20 handicaps shouldn't get 13 strokes more than you. One of them will have a day and win. But two on one, the 7 handicap is going to cover those 13 strokes the vast majority of the time. 20 handicaps are shit players. With super high variance and a very asymmetrical distribution of scores. Yes they shoot 85 every once in a while. But they shoot 110 way more often. A 7 handicap's equivalent is shooting 74 every once in a while but... 86 way more often?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.