Lie adjustments

[Denny Bang Bang]

When I was fit for new irons last year, the fitter only checked the lie of one iron (6i), and all irons were adjusted based on that one outcome.  I asked the fitter... shouldn't we check the lie for every iron on it's own?  His response was... it's not necessary, it should be the same across the set.  All my irons played well afterwards, other than a further tweak to my 8i several months later (as noted in @lastings post regarding iron gaps).

I'll be taking my irons in to have them checked out, and I'm curious... should I ask them to check the lie on every iron?  To me, it seems logical.  However, I'm no club expert, so maybe I'm overthinking it (which I can do sometimes).  Appreciate any comments and opinions.

[Loose Cannon]

Golf is 90% mental.  The other 10% is all in your head.  Definitely!  I'd have the entire set loft and lies checked.  If they only check a single iron, you will always have that doubt in the back of your mind about the other irons.  If you "know" each has been checked and is correct for your swing, you will have full confidence when stepping up to the shot.

[saevel25]

1 hour ago, Denny Bang Bang said:

When I was fit for new irons last year, the fitter only checked the lie of one iron (6i), and all irons were adjusted based on that one outcome.  I asked the fitter... shouldn't we check the lie for every iron on it's own?  His response was... it's not necessary, it should be the same across the set.  All my irons played well afterwards, other than a further tweak to my 8i several months later (as noted in @lastings post regarding iron gaps).]

The guy is lazy. It shouldn't take the guy more than 15 minutes to check the lie angle of the clubs for you . To assume the lie angles are correct just because the 6 iron is is not good.

 

[1badbadger]

Ideally, each club should be checked by hitting off of a lie board to ensure they are correct.  If no adjustments need to be made, this process doesn't take very long.  If the lie angle does need to be adjusted, each time the club should be hit again to verify if it's correct, or if more tweaking is needed.  Depending on the number of clubs and how easy they were to adjust, this could take up to an hour or so.  Basing it off of one club can be done, but it's cutting corners.

[Buckeyebowman]

I agree with saevel! What the OP is askiing about is a "dynamic" lie fitting, and is what should be done. However tight the tolerances at the foundry, when you're cranking out thousands of clubheads differences in loft and lie will happen.

For a professional fitter, a dynamic lie fitting doesn't take very much time at all. After all, you're paying for it so it should be right!

[WUTiger]

On 4/8/2017 at 9:09 PM, saevel25 said:

To assume the lie angles are correct just because the 6 iron is is not good.

Lie angles can be out of spec. Each one should be checked individually. Also, dynamic lie check is best. Hit each iron and see if you're getting square hits.

Also, a golfer may need slightly different lie angle on different irons. Possibly a degree flatter on the wedges, but maybe degree more upright on the longer irons; long irons are likely to have greater toe down - a downward bowing of the shaft during the swing - than short irons.

Toe down is one of the measures generated by the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer.

 

[Denny Bang Bang]

Thanks for all the comments, gents.

I will say, I did not pay a dime for the fitting when I bought the irons, and on top of that they gave $75 off the going price of my irons.  So I don't feel cheated out of anything, other than maybe a little misguidance on the lie testing.  The guy I deal with is a good guy, and has always given me a deal on equipment.

That being said, I scheduled my lie/loft evaluation with one of the best teaching pros in the state, who also has a reputation as a really good club fitter.  He said it's about a 40 minute process, he will evaluate all my irons, and adjust them if necessary.  I'm looking forward to the process... and just in time to start getting ready for the state am qualifier.