Should I use a 60*

[Jack_2251]

OK, well the story is, I play two titleist vokeys,a 54.10 and a 60.8
I find that i can play most shots from inside 70 metres with my 54 degree sand wedge. I am wondering what everyone thinks if I should take out my 60, and use a 56 degree and have a 50* as my 695.cb PW is only 45 degrees of loft.

[Big_M]

OK, well the story is, I play two titleist vokeys,a 54.10 and a 60.8

Your signature says your PW is 46?

good question though, one many of us face... If your PW is 46, maybe opt for a 52 and a 58. Of course then you have to buy two new wedges, or have current bent (which will change bounce). I am thinking of going this route, a 58 just might be a touch more playable and still lofted enough for most tight situations. But 51, 56 would be a good option as well. I don't think I would ant my most lofted wedge to be a 55 though.

[Jack_2251]

Yes, well the main concern was that I often am faced with 80-90 metre shots which would require a 50-52* wedge, and I thought that with a 56 I could just open it to make it high loft. But I guess, most pro's use 60s so they obviously do need them

[Shindig]

Yes, well the main concern was that I often am faced with 80-90 metre shots which would require a 50-52* wedge, and I thought that with a 56 I could just open it to make it high loft. But I guess, most pro's use 60s so they obviously do need them

The pros have quite a difference - the 60 degree, for many of them, is to make a ball stop almost immediately upon a green after a pitch. It is also a distance gap issue: many of them can hit a sand wedge over 100 yards.

If you have a 46 degree PW, my suggestions are to try either 46-50-54 or 46-52-58, or even 46-50-54-58 if you don't need long-range clubs. But the 60? Probably not. (These are all configurations I considered; I went with 46-52-58 at the moment and will be doing 45-50-54-58 at some point in the future).

[Big_M]

Well, 56's do work, pros got by for years with only them. But, I know for me, I get in situations where I'm opening that 60 up so I can throw it straight up in the air and have it land and stop. Of course this doesn't even happen every round. I actually don't mind hitting my 53 with a 3/4 or 1/2 swing for those shots inside 100 yds. And I almost always hit my 53 unless I don't have enough real estate, then I use the 60, but I much prefer the 53, it is my money club.

Really it's all preference and comfort. If you think covering the yardage gap is more useful than the 60, then it's probably a better choice.

Oh, one other thing... I hit my 60 for 75% of my greenside bunker shots, and I like it better than a 56.

I sure would like to roll with a 58 for a few weeks, just to see the difference.

[albatroz]

A 60* in your bag will not hurt . Once you have mastered its use it will your next best friend on distances 50 meters down . Nice thing bout it is you can do a full swing and still have distance and ball controll .

[egolfs]

I took the Dave Pelz school of thought for the last two seasons and went 46-53-56-60. (I took out the 5w when I added the 3h) This season I am going to try 46-52-58. Less confusion, more comfortable with one wedge within 75 yards, more capable of knowing ball reactions from different lies. At least that is what I am hoping for!

[Jack_2251]

Well, thanks guys. I am actually a very good player with my 60* wedge I think, its just I am wondering if I need the "super" loft of it. I am not trying to brag, just telling you what my pro and some partners have said.

[jfrain2004]

stick with the one that works

[TourSpoon]

I was just thinking how many times I used my 60 the last time I played and the answer was twice. But those two times, it was what I needed. I almost always use the 54 for chipping and pitching. I will use the 60 for sand, getting it up quick over a bunker, short sided chips and then in the fairway up to 85 yards. I find that if I am hitting the 60 a lot, then I am not hitting everything else that great or getting some unlucky bounces.

[jfrain2004]

If you have the confidence to make a full swing from say 60 yards out with your 60 ( which I don't for fear of sculling it and therefore make a 3/4 pitch with my PW ) then that will give you better distance control and allow you to get closer to tight pins. So long as your sure when your about to make the swing that you have the right club that's the main thing. Don't want to be over complicating things either and have too many "what club" thoughts in your head as your about to make a swing, if you don't have 100% confidence in a club and your swing then it's bye bye birdie or par. I dropped 10 shots last year from once I got to the stage where I have 100% confidence in my club and shot selection.

[bca42]

I have heard the Tour pros on TV suggest that only highly skilled amateurs use high loft wedges (e.g. 60*) and have gotten the same info from two Senior Tour candidates I know. It is a high risk shot with slim error margin and unless you practice it all the time, and have that shot come up in your game, there's no need. I actual rarely hit my 60*, most times it's not even in the bag. Almost always I have found there's another style shot to hit that is more likely to bring better outcome (bump n run, pitch, etc.).

Good luck either way!

[hawkeye]

I have heard the Tour pros on TV suggest that only highly skilled amateurs use high loft wedges (e.g. 60*) and have gotten the same info from two Senior Tour candidates I know. It is a high risk shot with slim error margin and unless you practice it all the time, and have that shot come up in your game, there's no need. I actual rarely hit my 60*, most times it's not even in the bag. Almost always I have found there's another style shot to hit that is more likely to bring better outcome (bump n run, pitch, etc.).

i'm going to try that for the rest of the winter season - take the lob wedge out of the bag (58 in my case). I rarely use it from distance ( > 30 yards). You can get by without a high loft wedge - it can be an ego thing - or psychological (i HAVE to use the LW here). It works well for some people - but try playing without it and see what the results are!

[bca42]

i'm going to try that for the rest of the winter season - take the lob wedge out of the bag (58 in my case). I rarely use it from distance ( > 30 yards). You can get by without a high loft wedge - it can be an ego thing - or psychological (i HAVE to use the LW here). It works well for some people - but try playing without it and see what the results are!

Good call, I think you'll be happy. Hitting certain shots and pulling them off is always fun, but without exception, I have found shooting lower scores consistently is

more fun. :)

[mustangbryk]

50 and 56 are the way to go. Get rid of the 60. I can do all the same things with my 56 that i could have done with my 60. Also the 50 will fill the gap from your PW.

[marine_1]

Well, thanks guys. I am actually a very good player with my 60* wedge I think, its just I am wondering if I need the "super" loft of it. I am not trying to brag, just telling you what my pro and some partners have said.

Dave Pelz says everyone should have a 60 in their bag. I carry 48, 52, 56 and 60* wedges.

[kregan]

This is interesting to me... A lot of people recommend Dave's book "short game bible" but few on here seem to heed his advice....

Dave recommends not only a 60 but a 64 also.

Dave Pelz says everyone should have a 60 in their bag. I carry 48, 52, 56 and 60* wedges.

[RX Phoenix]

The 60* is way overrated and is just as likely to get you into trouble as out of it such as hitting it thin, or flopping it too short when you're short-sided.

The better your game is the less you need it, how often do you need to hit a 60yd shot? If your course has short par5's and par4's then you may want it in the bag, or if you play from the whites and are driving the ball really well.

But on most holes the closest you will get is 80-100yds+ which can be covered by a 54* or PW.

A 58* can easily be used like a 60* by opening up the face, and even a 54* can get close to a 60* this way.

I find that I don't use the 60* even once on most rounds, and in taking it out of the bag I can put in a second driver with 13* which I use on short par4's, par5's and any tight driving hole, or if the 9.5* driver isn't working well that day. This is a bigger advantage than having the 60* sit in the bag, or maybe hit one flop shot that I could also get by opening up the 58*.

I use PW, 54*SW, 58* and may take out the 58* on some courses.