Determining Honor in Handicapped Match Play

[amished]

This year is my first year playing in my course's handicapped match play tournament and who had honor was a question that had come up that I was not sure of the answer.

On hole three, he ended up winning the hole so he had honor for hole four.  On hole four I had to give him a stroke, we both tee off and I end up making par and he ends up making bogey, which turns into net par when playing against me according to my understanding of the rules.  He then thought that I should have the honor on hole five since I had the better natural score (par vs. bogey) and I thought that he should retain honor since the hole was halved due to handicap.

We ended up playing the way that I thought (he retains honor because of the halved hole) but we weren't sure.

His opinion, I believe, comes from our Men's League where it's both stroke and match play, where whomever has the better natural score goes first.  I thought that rules were different in pure match play so that's where our confusion came up.

[David in FL]

You were right.  

Rule 10-1 applies.

The player (or side) that wins a hole has the honor on the next hole.  If a hole is halved, the honor remains the same as the prior hole.  Since you were playing a handicapped match, you decide each hole by net score.

Interestingly though.  In match play, if 2 players are unsure how to proceed under the rules, they can come to a decision between themselves and continue from there.  Which is exactly what you did.  

[Phil McGleno]

If you win the hole-Handicap included-You tee off first. Same as regular play. Apply the handicap strokes because that is how you determine who won the hole.

[DaveP043]

5 minutes ago, Phil McGleno said:

 Same as regular play. 

Just to be clear, in STROKE play the low gross score has the honor on the next tee.  I know the original question was about match play, but I'm adding this so folks understand that a different criteria applies.

Edited August 22, 2017 by DaveP043

[David in FL]

16 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Just to be clear, in STROKE play the low gross score has the honor on the next tee.  I know the original question was about match play, but I'm adding this so folks understand that a different criteria applies.

For those interested, decision 10-2a/1 pertains.

 

[Rulesman]

6 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

Just to be clear, in STROKE play the low gross score has the honor on the next tee.  I know the original question was about match play, but I'm adding this so folks understand that a different criteria applies.

This has to be so because stroke play (except for stableford) does not recognise a net score for a hole. The net score only applies to the whole round.

In stableford the lowest net score takes the honour.

[David in FL]

48 minutes ago, Rulesman said:

This has to be so because stroke play (except for stableford) does not recognise a net score for a hole. The net score only applies to the whole round.

In stableford the lowest net score takes the honour.

Actually, the highest net score takes the honor...  

[Rulesman]

No. If you read 32-1b, you will that points are determined converted from scores. The player with the highest points takes the honour. The lowest score has the highest points

[David in FL]

2 hours ago, Rulesman said:

No. If you read 32-1b, you will that points are determined converted from scores. The player with the highest points takes the honour. The lowest score has the highest points

I didn't know that.  I'll remember it though.  I bet I can win a bar bet or two with it!

[VOX]

On 8/22/2017 at 4:11 PM, Rulesman said:

This has to be so because stroke play (except for stableford) does not recognise a net score for a hole. The net score only applies to the whole round.

In stableford the lowest net score takes the honour.

True. The only time the hole by hole net score matters in stroke play events (or qualifying rounds) is under many "match of cards" methods.