Wrist Hinge and Flying Elbow - Backswing

[Sandhills Golfer]

This video has helped me set the wrists and tame a flying elbow.

 

[saevel25]

Please use Youtube. The forum will auto embed the video so no one has to click on a link. Thanks!

 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

Please use Youtube. The forum will auto embed the video so no one has to click on a link. Thanks!

Vimeo embeds too. You just can't paste it as a link ("<a href=…" style).

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The video's good, but I'm always surprised when people get much from things like this.

[Sandhills Golfer]

8 hours ago, iacas said:

Vimeo embeds too. You just can't paste it as a link ("<a href=…" style).

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The video's good, but I'm always surprised when people get much from things like this.

It's not course tested yet. But, by rotating the trail forearm and allowing the elbow to fold, it seems to get me in the right position in the backswing.

Often forum members/teachers, will say the fix to a collapsed backswing is something like you have to keep your arm straighter longer, when it could be another fix, like this.

 

SG

[Mr. Desmond]

Don't think a flying elbow at the top is necessarily a bad thing. If golf is a game of opposites, that flying elbow can turn to help you shallow the shaft on the downswing

[OGLP]

Great video! A flying right elbow prohibits the arms and shoulders from working together. It makes it very difficult to deliver the club on plane on the downswing. Two things will happen on the down swing with a flying elbow: 1.) an over the top move or 2.) an inside to outside path through impact.

[Sandhills Golfer]

On 1/4/2018 at 6:27 PM, OGLP said:

Great video! A flying right elbow prohibits the arms and shoulders from working together. It makes it very difficult to deliver the club on plane on the downswing. Two things will happen on the down swing with a flying elbow: 1.) an over the top move or 2.) an inside to outside path through impact.

Agreed. What do you guys think of the second point. The elbow chases the belly button the downswing. Can this thought replace a lower body key, like

a hip bump?

[iacas]

2 hours ago, Sandhills Golfe said:

Agreed. What do you guys think of the second point. The elbow chases the belly button the downswing. Can this thought replace a lower body key, like

a hip bump?

Whatever feel works for you, man.

[klineka]

On 1/4/2018 at 6:27 PM, OGLP said:

Great video! A flying right elbow prohibits the arms and shoulders from working together. It makes it very difficult to deliver the club on plane on the downswing. Two things will happen on the down swing with a flying elbow: 1.) an over the top move or 2.) an inside to outside path through impact.

The arms and shoulders will always work together. They are attached. They might not work the way you want them to, or might not work the most optimal way, but they are always working together. 

Why do you think the flying right elbow prohibits the arms and shoulders from working together? 

I also disagree that it makes it very difficult to deliver the club on plane on the downswing. When combined with proper body rotation, the club will naturally drop back down and the elbow will get tucked in simply from how fast the body is rotating, which can very easily deliver the club on plane.

I'm also confused by your statement that a flying elbow will lead to either an OTT or inside to outside path.

OTT move produces outside to inside path for most people, so youre saying that the flying right elbow can lead to either an out to in or an in to out path? If I can get both swing paths from a flying right elbow then why is it a problem?

Matched up with the correct face alignments, the ability (according to you) to go both in to out and out to in with the flying right elbow would mean that I could hit draws, cuts and straight shots (if I can do both in to out and out to in then logic would state I could also find a middle between those which would be a 0 path)