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After a lot of work this year I improved my swing technique in order to swing faster but with the same effort. With Driver on the course I went from 104club/153ball/245carry to 111/163/260 and with 7 iron I went from 86/114/155 to 91/123/170. I'm currently playing Driver with an x-shaft, and s-shaft with the rest. Driver is 60 grams, woods and hybrids are 70grams, irons(4 to P) are 115grams and wedges 130grams. My current tendency with woods/hybrid/irons is to over-draw the ball, I almost never miss right. Another issue I'm having is that I'm hitting the ball low with 6..7 iron and really low with 4 and 5. That made my 4..5..6 irons to overlap a little, there's only 5..6 yards difference from one to the other, that's why I took out of the bag the 5 iron and added an extra hybrid (23°) to fill a 25 yards gap between my 4 iron and the 18° hybrid. Both hybrids have the height I like to go for a green, even the 23° it's on the higher limit so buying a 28° hybrid to replace the 4 iron is not an option, it will balloon to much. I love to hit down on the ball with my 8 iron or shorter or my woods/hybrids knowing that the balls is still going to fly high. I would love to be able to do the same with 7 to 4 iron but currently I'm forced to have a flatter AoA, even positive if the lie allows for it. Should I change wood/hybrid/irons shafts to x-stiff? I know that a stiffer shaft should made my missed left a little less bad. Do I have enough speed for this stiffness? Should I change the shaft of the 4to7 iron to a more lighter one in order to get a little more height/spin? I read about the AMT shafts concept and I would have no problem changing the 6/7 iron for a 95/100 gram shaft, and use a 80gram shaft for the 4 and 5. Should I consider graphite shafts? Would changing the shaft kick help?

For me the best way is to go sideways an see if the perpendicular putt break right or left. It also works for multiple slope putts, you just need to divide the putt in sections and measure each one.

Watching a youtube video from Rick Shields, his tour pro Caddie for that round cleaned his grips before the round. He was surprised but glad because he felt them a lot more grippy than normal. I have a mid am competition stating this friday and I normally clean the grooves of my irons before a tournament I consider important, but never came to mind to clean the grips. Yesterday after cleaning the grooves I proceeded to clean the grips, after letting them dry they were supper grippy, even more than when they were new. We will se how they are in a couple of days at the course, if they feel the same I think i will keep doing this before each tournament I consider important.

Taking a quick look at the video, it wasn't enough damaged (on camera) to affect ball flight in my opinion. I think he just took his chances with a referee in hopes he will be allowed to change it. A couple months ago I cracked my Driver on the warm up of a mid am. It sounded different and of course the ball wasn't going as far, but the flight was somewhat predictable and the lost in carry wasn't that huge to drop down to 3 wood so I played the 36 holes with that club and proceeded to replace it (under warranty) for the next tournament. I drove it pretty well that tournament, stats told me I loose 10 yards but it was accurate enough to be a better selection than 3 wood.

For you It wasn't, it was substantial enough for him. It's a percentage game. You are going to score better during daylight . So if you choose to play in the dark, then you are willingly harming your scoring average. Yes, talking about one outcome vs another outcome. Playing on Sunday vs playing on Monday. Stats goes out the window in a single outcome. Is like hitting Driver or a 60° off a pot bunker. Stats tell you that it would be wiser to use the 60° for a better outcome in average.. but in just one single shot you will never know what would happen, but almost everybody would use the 60° because is just common sense you are going to harm you score if you try to hack it out with the driver the same way we all play during daylight. Again, it's your opinion. Only his matters, and for him it was reasonable to wait for the other day. First one is your opinion, second is a fact he would hurt his scoring average. we are not going to agree on that one. Because they are part of the game, or we play in those conditions or we are disqualified. It's a players choice by the rules to play after sunset, why? because is a HUGE detriment to score.. but it seems you don't see it that way.. Because we like to express our posture in stuff ?? I can post here that he was right or wrong because of what I think, but in reality it only matters what he though in the moment, he did the best for him of course always playing by the rules despite knowing he would be inconvenience the stuff. A lot of people don't do stuff because they would inconvenience others or receive a lot of critics.. I respect the guys that don't give a .. dime.. and go and do the best for themselves always in fairness to others. If you don't take care of your won interest, no one is going to do it for you. I totally get that, I would also in the same situation would just finish up and call it a day... but I respect he made a different decision, we are all different and I'm not going to criticize his actions just because they are not aligned with mine. That's why I said it was just his side of the story.. don't know the guy. For you, an that's ok. The forum would be really boring if we all think the same way. Yeap, the guy in contention finished the hole. It seems Kutchar take his decision before that. Personally.. I wasn't there so.. I just overheard that issue. Never formed an opinion over it. In this case is a dick move for you... not for me. Sometimes you need to put yourselve first, when you consider it matters to you and you are not doing something ilegal, unfair, etc Remember, this is his Job. Maybe he takes it more seriously than us, maybe his is a dick.. I personally don't know. I just respect his call. Besides that.. sometimes at work I need to do some extra ours.. work on weekends or after hours. Is part of the job description and I accept that. That the tournament can be extended to Monday is a possibility, and the staff knows that when they sign in.. more over with rain forecast and a schedule of more than 36 holes to play on Sunday. It was unconvenient.. but saying they were f** up is a bit to much for me. Be sure that every guy that went to work on Monday got a free day after that and got payed because of it. Not to mentions the guy that works for free and is a pleasure for them to attend the course.

Not if he wanted to shoot as low as he can. Just an opinion as mine. Don't make it right because you or I said it. It doesn't matter what we state and think, if he thought it mattered for him enough to wait for the next day in order to score better then that is all you need to know. Impossible to say but you know is easier to play with light rather than dark. If he wanted to score low on 18th then it is reasonable to wait for the next day just because in average you are going to score better. If playing in the dark wouldn't be a detriment to score then we all should be playing all day long. I sure will be doing it! Exactly, famous tale.. "For the lack of a nail the horseshoe was lost, for the lack of a horseshoe the horse was lost, for the lack of a horse the knight was lost, for the lack of a knight the battle was lost. And just as the battle was lost that a kingdom was lost, and all because it was a nail that was missing" For you is minuscule. This is, IMO, were you are wrong. It mattered to him enough to wake up early in his rest/travel day to go to the course, warm-up and play only 3 shots. Similar comment Montgomery said about Tiger at The Open. Nice.. I read that he said that he did it also to support the other player in the group that was in contention, because he have the back to stop and play the next day alone, but the rookie would not and would procced to play in the dark in detriment to his winning chances. But if he also stop then both can come the next day and finish the round. He claims he didn't knew that the leader made birdie and already won the tournament. It's just his side of the story...

Why should Matt harm himself for the benefit of the rest of the field or the convenience of the tournament staff? If he considered important the score of the last hole, then it was ok for him waiting until the next day to finish his round. Good for him for standing up for what he believed and not cave under the criticism that was about to fall over him. Liked him even more when he said that he wasn't on social media either! 👏

Good defense by sneel but this quote was unfortunate. I agree with the fact that performance on the course is what matter and it would be ideal to see what kind of difference in performance (ball fligth, spin, launch, speed, etc) you can find comparing the heaviest ball vs the lightest of a sample or the roudest vs the ones considered not round, etc. If the difference is 1 yard carry or 100 spin or 1 mile speed there is nothing to worry about (maybe at pga tour level), but if it came out that a "not rounded ball" spins out of the planet when a rounded doesn't then it's a real problem an can be labeled the worst golf ball in the world. I really think that at amateur level a few decimals of a gram is not going to do a difference at all.. but it's just a guess, I really have no idea.

Remembering this thread, this weekend I faced a second shot on a par 5. 15 miles wind in the face with OB to the right. I hit a low DoD fade that carried almost 200 and roles 20 more yards (heavy rains the the before so 20 yards was a LOT). Lie was firm but I hit it perfectly and it barely reached an apex of 15/20 feet at most. A lot of things can go wrong with this shot.. but it could be an alternative if a long low fade is required and I can give it enough time to practice it.

Same.. no questions ask. I'm too old to run for my life!

The scratch golfer model for course rating purposes hit the ball 230 carry and 250 total, so you are just 20 yards short of that. Mark Brody said that 20 yards less of the tee is around 1 stroke a round for a tour pro, for a 10 handicapper it could be 2...3 strokes? you have plenty of distance to shoot constantly in the 70's. Work on your dispersion. I regularly play with a couple of old friends that used to be scratch golfers in the past, even one of them was a good pro back then. Today they all hit it around the same distance as you but score in the high 70's and the ex pro is always around low 70's. They are not long anymore because of age (65/70) but they are still pretty accurate.

I used to do it until a decade ago when I was playing a Driver from 1999. head was smaller so it was a lot easier. Today I play the IA smoke Driver lowered to 6° loft.. is almost impossible to hit of the deck.

Shafts flex is more about club speed than index. If you drove a 310 hole then your club speed should be above 110 m/h so you should play and x-stiff shaft, stiff at the softest. regular, senior or ladies shaft are going to be in detriment four your consistency.

Gathering proper information is vital to make better decisions. Understanding the numbers is a big part of it. I can teach anytime you want 😉 ! Sounds about right, with 30 yards less, PGA average drops down to around 4.4. So for scratch players should be around 4.8. (around 8 shots difference between a pro and a scrach player over 18 holes... is +0.4 shots a hole). One thing that must be considered also is lucky tree bounces. In this hole you can miss right or left 20 out of 100 balls (20%) but some of them are going to bounce back to the fairway making the average a little lower if you consider it.

At my home course they set the blue, white and yellow tees at the same spot for closest to the pin and long drive competitions. Nobody complains. It's normally placed were the white tee box is placed on regular days so is the closest to a normal day as possible. A bit shorter for blue people and a bit longer for yellow people but is not that much of a difference. There is also another red set of tees for the ladies but with a different price.

Crunched the numbers.. the order is left to right. OB, rough, fairway, rough and OB. Percentage is distribution of shots, and below average from each distance/lie Driver: 190 left 3 Wood: 220 left 2 Iron: 240 left Despite been Driver the worst average I would hit driver because if you hit 3 wood or 2 iron you are still going to have a long shot to the green where you can still hit a couple OB that is going to make the hole average a little higher. From 190 I'm positive you can miss the green but still keep it in play (based on the 50 yards between penalty hazards). Just to mess around, you can play it as a 3 shot hole like they mentioned before. If you have an average of 40 yards fairway you can easily hit 2 shots of 180 yards and keep the ball in play 100% of the times (a couple on the rough) leaving yourself 100 yards to the green for your 3rd shot. That's an average of 4.8 for a tour pro, is not that much over risking going for it in 2.

Not getting out of bed in the morning. Winter here.

You get that percentage aiming 9 yards right of the bunker, basically 1 yard away from the center of the fairway, so if he aim more left or rigth than that, yes his FIR is going to be lower.

As I said before, "The scoring averages are going to be a little higher but is not going to make a difference on club selection." Also remember that normally FIR is 60%, the other 40% is not always rough (hazard, bunker, trees) so in reality that 1/5 is more like 1/15 or 0.066 a hole or 15 yards. I re-run the numbers but with the exact yards and using rough and the numbers just went up a little bit but the decision making remains the same, Driver is the best choice. With driver (50 yards from green), from left to righ I considered left of cart path "trees/recovery" because you told us that trees left were tall so I guess if you pull it you are not going to carry them. Rigth of the car path you have 9 yards of rough, 20 yards of greenside bunker, 4 yards of rough, then the 20 yards of fairway, 3 yards of bunker (I considered 20 yards of roll so you are not going to carry the 2nd pot bunker), 18 yards of rough and finally trees/recovery. You are going to hit this fairway 43% of the times. Rough represent only 27% of your shots. Scoring average increased from 3.78 to 3.83. At this distance theres only 0.15 difference between rough and fairway, that's why I tell you is almost negligible for strategy purposes unless rough is really penal. Here are the rest of the possibilities, also with the exact numbers and rough. Wood: 3iron: 4iron: Average score for a PGA pro from 355 is 3.91. For an easy hole like this I guess it could be a little lower.

Used your own information, wasn't able to google earth it in detail, so I eyeballed the best I could, also name "Fairway" the sum of fairway + rough as "Still have shot to the green". After doing this for a long time you found out that fairway or rough is almost the same thing for the numbers when you want to compare among hitting a Driver, wood or an Iron off the tee. The scoring averages are going to be a little higher but is not going to make a difference on club selection. Exceptions are when the fairway width differ between distances and the rough is really penal. Don't worry, I'll re-run the numbers with the exact ones.

I run the numbers to get a more accurate estimation... Considerations: Players dispersion (95% of shots) Driver: 70 yards 3Wood: 60 yards 3Iron: 50 yards. 4Iron: 45 yards. Landing Area at blue line (left to right).. 20 yards of bunker and 40 yards of fairway. Tree left and right of that. Ideal aim is 14 yards right of the greenside bunker. At Brown: 35 yards of fairway, 5 yards of bunker, 20 yards of fairway. Tree left and right of that. Ideal aim is 10 yards left of the 2nd bunker. At green: 25 yards of fairway, 10 yards of bunker, 25 yards of fairway. Tree left and right of that. Ideal aim is 3 yards left of the shorter bunker. At red: 40 yards of fairway and 20 yards of bunker. Tree left and right of that. Ideal aim is 15 yards left of the big bunker on the right. I used SG approach from the PGA tour and normal distribution for dispersion. Results: Blue: 19% of your shots are going to be in the bunker. 74% on the fairway and 7% in the trees (left + right). Distance to pin 50 yards in average. Spected score from trees is +0.66, 0 from sand and -0.35 from fairway. References: X recovery shot (trees), s = sand, f = fairway. Average score= 3.78. Brown: Green: Red: In conclusion.. by the numbers.. the best strategy is to play Driver with an average of 3.78. Bonus.. let say you are really bad at long bunker shots so insted a 0 score average you putt it out side ways leaveing you a 3rd shot of 50 yards from the fairways.. the numbers changes as follows... Now been on the bunker is +0.65 shot loose instead of 0. 3.9 average is still almost the best option, only 3 wood with 3.87 is better so unless you are terrible at that distance you should hit Driver. We can play further with the numbers but it doesn't change the outcome that much.

Missed this one.. The closer you are to the green is always better because of strokes gained unless the hole didn't let you hit Driver for obvious reasons. With driver if you can carry the trees on the left and stay shot of the greenside bunker its the right call, but because of what you said this is not the right club. With 3 wood you have plenty of room (60 yards playable with 50 yards of dispersion for the club). You are only challenging a small bunker and you are leaving yourself 70 yards to the hole. Dropping back to 3 iron avoid the brown bunker but put another bunker in play so no gain there and all your shots are now 20 yards longer. Not a good trade. Last option, lay back to 4 iron were practically all your shots are going to be in play but you are going to play all of them from 120. For me is a 3 wood all day long.

Pretty clear explanation and message. You can be labels into a category by swing speed or handicap but at the end you should test them all and see witch suit you best. Index 0.8. 170 with 7 iron (33°). Gamer is a 2 piece golf ball with hard compression when I'm supposed to play a 4 layer one.

Dry Weather Golfer for casual rounds. A light rain is ok. All Weather Golfer on tournaments. Bring it on! I love to play soccer on the mud or the beach under rain so golf with an umbrella is a piece of cake. Moreover this days were you can attach the umbrella to the cart. A month ago we had a rainy cold days for a 36 holes tournament. On the 1st day on hole 3 a guy on my group just quitted. The next day we were 4 again. One quitted at 9th, another at 11th and the last one lifted his ball at 12th and proceeded to walk with me to keep my scorecard until I finished the round. Respect to that guy. 25 years ago, on my teens, I even went out to play alone on heavy rain, without rain clothes or an umbrella and plenty of lightnings.. didn't know how crazy I was at that age.

Amazing US Open to watch. Of course I was rooting for Bryson, but a little part of me wanted a W for Rory. Hope this fuel Rory to win a major soon. Interesting to see how much is going to take for Aberg to win his first major. Scheffler is human, thank god.. we need more tight final rounds like this.