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How do you go about hitting the 4:00 position of the golf ball? What type of grip do you use? What type of stance do you use?

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Please explain 4 o'clock. From my understanding, you want to hit the 6 o'clock ball position. A few argue that with the very long clubs (driver/3 wood/3 iron), you should aim more for the 7 o'clock.

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Do you imagine the clock from the player or down the line? I would imagine down the line, hitting it at 6 from the player view sounds wrong, but I would also think you imagined the clock from the eyes of the player.

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It's from the player view. 12 o'clock is far away from you. 4:00 is mostly on the back but just a little of the inside.

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Please explain 4 o'clock. From my understanding, you want to hit the 6 o'clock ball position. A few argue that with the very long clubs (driver/3 wood/3 iron), you should aim more for the 7 o'clock.

When the ball is at address:

Furthest from you is 12:00, to the right is 3:00, to the left is 9:00, and closest to you is 6:00. I realize this is based upon a swing that is in to out.

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Ideally you want to hit the ball at 430. the ball compressed to the face for about 3/4" which allows time for the club to rotate square to the target line, which is when the ball actually leaves the club

If you hit it at 6:00 you'll hook it.
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If you hit it at 6:00 you'll hook it.

Actually if you hit the ball at 6:00 (the point on the ball closest to you looking straight down at the ball from above) you'll probably kill your playing partner sitting in the cart directly opposite you...

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How bout tryin to just hit the back of the ball n hit it in the right direction,sometimes people think way too much.

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I don't understand how you can hit it at 6 o'clock. My aim is to hit it somewhere between 3 and 4. Further ahead would make the swing path come too much from the inside and launch the ball very far right. Ideally I would like to hit it at 3 o'clock every single time and adjust my aim and clubhead to shape the shot, but since I'm working on removing an over-the-top-swing I try to emphasize coming at it a bit from the inside.

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Ideally you want to hit the ball at 430.

No, you don't. You want to hit the ball at 3:00. Maybe 3:10 at the latest.

4:30 would be bisect the back inside quadrant. That's ridiculous. It might be a good "mental picture" but nobody who plays good golf gets anywhere near 4:30 (or 4:00, or even 3:30).

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How do you go about hitting the 4:00 position of the golf ball? What type of grip do you use? What type of stance do you use?

I assume you are trying to learn to hit a draw? Starts out slightly to the right, then curves back to the left (assuming you are right handed.)

I think you'd get more help if you described the type of ball flight you you were trying to acheive.

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I think I would have to be a contortionist to hit the ball at 6:00. That would be one ugly swing.

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i like to hit the ball at 9am so i can be the first one out there

At 9am? Half the guys I know would be playing the back nine by then.

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4.00 is a bit much. How to do it, grip, stance etc? Normal grip, normal stance, trigger downswing from lower body. Should get you hitting from the inside.

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starchuk Established Member

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If 6:00 is the closest time to you and 3:00 is considered 'the back of the ball', the club face will hit the ball somewhere around 330. The hands should drive towards a 430 position and with the clubhead accelerating near impact, the clubhead will hit the back of the ball AFter 3:00.

Leadbetter has 430 written on his practice balls at championsgate, Orlando.

Anyone know why?
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At 9am? Half the guys I know would be playing the back nine by then.

with the season warming up and the frost delays getting earlier and earlier... if non existent... im finding i have to reset my alarm to beat the other guys camping out in the parking lot... hahaha

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