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When a PGA Tour player shoots a really low round - 61, 63, 59… whatever… ask yourself: did the guy have to get up and down a lot or hole a lot of chips for birdie? Or did he hit a bunch of greens, leave himself short putts, and have a decent day with the putter?

When a PGA Tour player needs to rely on his short game, he probably didn't have a great round. He may have salvaged a decent round, but he didn't have a great round.

Great rounds - and good scoring over the long haul - are a result of the full swing. Hitting greens, and hitting it closer to the hole where you have stress-free pars, are key. The days when you make a bunch of putts or happen to stick it close? Those are your great rounds. The rest are just good rounds.

I'm not sure anyone has ever chipped in six times to shoot a net 65, but they've stuck a bunch of shots close to do it a ton of times.

Your short game is your crutch. It's there to keep a great round going, or it's there to bandage up a bad round and keep it being an "okay" round.

Your full swing is the main determinant of your score. The days you hit it well are the days you have good rounds. If you have a little luck or hole a few putts, they become great rounds.

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boogielicious

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2 hours ago, downbylaw11 said:

i dont know everything, heck i barely know anything. i will try to learn.  get off his nuts 

 

oh, and one question, how many strokes have you shaved off your handicap since coming to this site?  im hoping youre one of the hundreds who Erik has helped?

When I first joined this forum, I couldn't break 100. I tried a couple of instructors and they stunk. They couldn't tell me why they wanted me to do things. As and engineer, I hated that. 

I met Erik and Dave Wedzik at a clinic in 2009 or 10. They not only explained why, but how to get there. By 2012 I was down to a 10 HC. I stayed 10-12 for a few years. Lately, I've had a bunch of injuries. Right now, I have a torn meniscus and can't play until after surgery.  I'm 57 and probably won't ever get the distance back I had when I was a 10  

So to really answer your question, 12 strokes off my HC or there abouts.  Is that enough for you?

downbylaw11

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yes thats enough. im very happy for you

i was mostly just curious because you said your long game was kinda crappy, so I assumed that while you subscribe to all of iacas's thoughts on the golf swing, and tell me that i should do the same and learn more, you yourself were unable to actually apply anything youve learned on the site to improve your golf game.  so im happy and relieved to hear that you actually have gotten better. 

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iacas

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4 hours ago, downbylaw11 said:

i was mostly just curious because you said your long game was kinda crappy

He said "less than average."

4 hours ago, downbylaw11 said:

i was mostly just curious because you said your long game was kinda crappy, so I assumed that while you subscribe to all of iacas's thoughts on the golf swing, and tell me that i should do the same and learn more, you yourself were unable to actually apply anything youve learned on the site to improve your golf game.  so im happy and relieved to hear that you actually have gotten better. 

He's applied a lot of what he's learned. And improved quite a bit.

Not everyone, given work schedules, age, practice time, ability, etc. are going to be +2s.

And this topic isn't about "the golf swing" per se. It's about where people lose or gain strokes, and when they shoot great scores, they gain the biggest chunk in their full swing. We aren't really talking about "the golf swing" itself in this topic.

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11 hours ago, downbylaw11 said:

i dont know everything, heck i barely know anything. i will try to learn.  

We noticed. That's why we're trying to help you.

11 hours ago, downbylaw11 said:

oh, and one question, how many strokes have you shaved off your handicap since coming to this site?  im hoping youre one of the hundreds who Erik has helped?

Handicap now compared to when I joined?  17 shots.  I was a ~31 when I joined and am now a 13.7 with a trend index of 13.5.  If you want to limit it to the time since LSW came out, the answer is a five and a half shots (there was a lot more room for improvement from 31 to 19.x than what I went after from that to 13.5). 

downbylaw11

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well im happy you improved your game, and are satisfied spending a lot of money on a book. it's reassuring to know that the promise of lower scores will still convince people to empty their wallets

after researching i realize now that this book was written by erik so basically this thread has become an ad. coolbeans

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27 minutes ago, downbylaw11 said:

well im happy you improved your game, and are satisfied spending a lot of money on a book. it's reassuring to know that the promise of lower scores will still convince people to empty their wallets

after researching i realize now that this book was written by erik so basically this thread has become an ad. coolbeans

None of the information provided in this topic cost anyone a cent. None of the information freely provided anywhere on this site has cost anyone a cent. Thousands and thousands of posts… free. And… I don't need to advertise the book (certainly not here) - the people who have bought it do it for us. Word of mouth. We've never "advertised." We have a Twitter account, and that's about it.

Our readers advertise for us, because they like what we've said, and we help them shoot lower scores. Kinda like this…

But hey, keep on keepin' on, man. Don't learn anything. Don't open your mind up to new ideas. Just plug your ears and hum a tune.

FWIW, none of this crap is on topic. Let's get back to that, mmmkay?

Phil McGleno

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34 minutes ago, downbylaw11 said:

well im happy you improved your game, and are satisfied spending a lot of money on a book. it's reassuring to know that the promise of lower scores will still convince people to empty their wallets

after researching i realize now that this book was written by erik so basically this thread has become an ad. coolbeans

Ha ha ha.-Did your research include reading my post earlier where I pointed this out to you? And if $29 is -a lot of money- then might I suggest you take up a different sport? Golf clearly is not for you.

20 minutes ago, iacas said:

FWIW, none of this crap is on topic. Let's get back to that, mmmkay?

Right on.-No need to empower the willfully ignorant.

I played today with two guys, both a bit better than scratch.

- One guy shot 68.-Very good but not spectacular day for him. Putted okay.
- Other guy shot 75.-Not a good day. Worked a bit to shoot that score too.

- One guy hit 13 greens and had no penalties. Three putted -for a par- once and otherwise played a boring round. A few birdies were kick-ins and he did not get up and down every time.
- Other fella hit 7 greens and pumped a tee ball out-And found the water once too. Did not three putt at all and only had 27 putts on the day. Holed a shot from off the green -Too bad it was for a bogey though.

People know where that is all headed if they understand golf.

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