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barnum1 Well Established Member

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Hi!

I am looking at replacing my PING i20 irons (having "old school lofts") with something more forgiving.
Problem is that the Game Improvement irons I can find have stronger lofts, and that does not match my other clubs.

For example, I have already taken out my i20 4 iron and added a 7 wood.
If I were to buy a set with 3 degrees stronger loft, then the new 5 iron would be appr. the same length as the 7 wood (assuming stronger lofts give more yards).
And at the other end, the new PW would leave a gap to my 52 degree gap wedge.
So, I would actually need to buy UW, PW, 9i, 8i, 7i and 6i to match the other clubs in the bag!

So my question is, can I get forgiveness without stronger lofts?

Thanks for any input!


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2 hours ago, barnum1 said:

Hi!

I am looking at replacing my PING i20 irons (having "old school lofts") with something more forgiving.
Problem is that the Game Improvement irons I can find have stronger lofts, and that does not match my other clubs.

For example, I have already taken out my i20 4 iron and added a 7 wood.
If I were to buy a set with 3 degrees stronger loft, then the new 5 iron would be appr. the same length as the 7 wood (assuming stronger lofts give more yards).
And at the other end, the new PW would leave a gap to my 52 degree gap wedge.
So, I would actually need to buy UW, PW, 9i, 8i, 7i and 6i to match the other clubs in the bag!

So my question is, can I get forgiveness without stronger lofts?

Thanks for any input!

The stronger static lofts on GI and SGI irons are because they launch higher. OEMs lower the static loft to get the optimum launch angle. Forget about the loft number and iron numbers and try out sets to determine which one you like the best. Focus only on distance and launch angles. You will most like find a set that matches the other clubs in your set. Since you have Ping, start there.

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Go get fit. Loft shouldn’t really matter as much as ball flight characteristics (launch, spin, etc) and gapping. Any good fitting should have a gapping session which will layout how far you hit each club and determine if that’s playable for you or not. 

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barnum1 Well Established Member

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Yep, I'll definitely do the fitting, and I heard that you can order for example PING G410 at least 1,5 degree weaker.

But still, it would be interesting to know if anyone gone to a stronger-lofted set of clubs and if that made you have to affected what other clubs to use (woods and wedges).


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@boogielicious
Yep, I agree that distance and launch angle is the important thing, not the loft itself.
I just assumed that stronger loft gave more distance.
Let's see what the fitting says 🙂

 


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3 minutes ago, barnum1 said:

I just assumed that stronger loft gave more distance.

You're kind of looking at it the wrong way. You seem to be thinking you'll get more distance from a new 5i because it's 24° and your old 5i is 27°, but really you're probably going to hit a new 5i at 24° the same distance as you hit your old 4i at 24°, except the new 5i probably launches higher.

What's the difference between having a 5i-PW set versus a 6i-UW set? It's still the same number of clubs.

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@billchao

Not sure I follow you. "you're probably going to hit a new 5i at 24° the same distance as you hit your old 4i at 24°" is a problem for me, because my 5i is my longest club right now. I don't want to hit it like my old 4i, because I have a 7 wood for that distance.

What the number is on the club is irrelevant.
I'm just worried that if I buy the standard set 5i-PW, my irons will move 5-10 yards up in distance. And creating a "collision" with my woods and a gap from my wedges.


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18 minutes ago, barnum1 said:

@billchao

Not sure I follow you. "you're probably going to hit a new 5i at 24° the same distance as you hit your old 4i at 24°" is a problem for me, because my 5i is my longest club right now. I don't want to hit it like my old 4i, because I have a 7 wood for that distance.

What the number is on the club is irrelevant.
I'm just worried that if I buy the standard set 5i-PW, my irons will move 5-10 yards up in distance. And creating a "collision" with my woods and a gap from my wedges.

You just wouldn’t need the 7wood then right? The gap you had between your 7 wood and the next club would be the same except now it’s ‘X’-5i-PW. Right?

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@Vinsk

Yep, then I wouldn't need the 7 wood, but I really love that club and I want to keep it in the bag!

An option might be to but 6i-UW, but maybe that costs more than the standard 5i-PW?

Again, all this if my original assumption that stronger lofts give more distance is correct...


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34 minutes ago, barnum1 said:

@billchao

Not sure I follow you. "you're probably going to hit a new 5i at 24° the same distance as you hit your old 4i at 24°" is a problem for me, because my 5i is my longest club right now. I don't want to hit it like my old 4i, because I have a 7 wood for that distance.

What the number is on the club is irrelevant.
I'm just worried that if I buy the standard set 5i-PW, my irons will move 5-10 yards up in distance. And creating a "collision" with my woods and a gap from my wedges.

Right, you’re stuck on this mindset that you have to buy a “standard” set 5i-PW. If you’re ordering clubs you can get whatever you want, so you can get 6i-UW.

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You're right there. Do you know if it will cost more to buy the "non-standard" 6i-UW?

Don’t know. If you’re ordering from the manufacturer, probably not. If you’re buying a set at a store and they’re offering a deal on what they have in stock, it might make a difference.

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2 minutes ago, barnum1 said:

@billchao

You're right there. Do you know if it will cost more to buy the "non-standard" 6i-UW?

Usually not. It’s based on number of clubs as places usually have a $/per club.

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Forget the number on the club, stronger lofts are a marketing tool, concern yourself with the loft and how well,straight and high you hit the club.


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