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My Wife Bought Me an Edel Sand and Lob Wedge for Christmas!


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For starters I know my wife is AWESOME!  

So anyway,  after thinking about the fact that my sand wedge and lob wedge are not the same length as my Cobra one length clubs and the fact that I don't know what the actual bounce of my lob wedge is (I have a cleveland 60 degree bent to 64) I decided I needed new wedges.  With that I've heard alot of good things about Edel and I knew I needed more bounce (I tend to dig on my chips/and pitches alot) I decided to go with Edel wedges.  

I wound up getting the Driver grind 62 and 56 degree wedges ( they have 22 and 18 degrees of bounce respectively).  I also got them at plus 1.5 inches which makes them close to the same length as my other wedges.  First thing I love the way they look (haven't been able to really use them yet, but I'll get to a concern I have after I show some pics).

Also forgive the crapiness of some of these some are from my crappy cell phone camera, but that said I love how they look!: 

Getting to the question.  I posted the last pic that shows the leading edge of my 62.  I do tend to dig some on chips, pitches, and in the sand, but not to the degree that they had for "diggers."  That's why I went with the driver grind.  That said as you can see on the edge pic they've ground the leading edge on the face up a decent amount which makes a pretty severe/sharp "secondary leading edge."  My question from anyone who got the driver grinds is if you find they tend to dig pretty significantly, or do they "glide" really well?

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Sweet! I have the driver grinds and don’t find they dig any different than Vokey wedges. If I hit it fat, same result.

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3 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Sweet! I have the driver grinds and don’t find they dig any different than Vokey wedges. If I hit it fat, same result.

So you don't feel they help you NOT DIG anymore than Vokeys or Cleveland's would?

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8 minutes ago, MattM said:

So you don't feel they help you NOT DIG anymore than Vokeys or Cleveland's would?

Yes. They are better for chipping and pitching too IMO. The leading edge is closer to the ground and you can open them up and keep the leading edge close. With Vokey’s as you rotate the head, the leading edge comes up.

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So for a sand shot....these won't help me keep my club from digging too deeply into the sand?  I thought the bounce and grind was supposed to be a major help with that (ie more room for error) per your superbounce thread.

Sorry I meant to quote Iacas' post about fatting it...

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Just now, MattM said:

So for a sand shot....these won't help me keep my club from digging too deeply into the sand?  I thought the bounce and grind was supposed to be a major help with that (ie more room for error) per your superbounce thread.

They will. The have more bounce in the leading edge. 

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1 minute ago, MattM said:

So for a sand shot....these won't help me keep my club from digging too deeply into the sand?

Of course they will.

That's not what people are talking about when they say "a fat shot."

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

Of course they will.

That's not what people are talking about when they say "a fat shot."

Reread my posts.  I never said anything about hitting fat...I specifically mentioned digging multiple times.

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6 minutes ago, MattM said:

Reread my posts.  I never said anything about hitting fat...I specifically mentioned digging multiple times.

Stop assuming I'm replying to you, maybe, particularly when I don't quote you in my post.

My reply about the bunkers was to you, but @boogielicious mentioned hitting it fat. I was replying to him.

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4 minutes ago, iacas said:

Stop assuming I'm replying to you, maybe, particularly when I don't quote you in my post.

My reply about the bunkers was to you, but @boogielicious mentioned hitting it fat. I was replying to him.

Your first post was "wedges arent really designed to help much if you fat it"  then below that you asked "What do you want them to do?"

Was that question to boogielicious or me?  Just analyzing the context I would think that was all to me because why would boogdlielicious have any question on them (since he's had his for a while).

Anywho not a big deal...

My problem is that lately Ive been blading sand shots in wet sand, and I think subconsiuosly it's because (with my current LW) even when I know I hit the sand where I want and with an open face I was struggling keeping it from digging way too deep which didn't let the ball get enough distance out of the sand.  I think I've been trying to be too fine about it and it leads to blades every now and then.  

Hoping these make it easier (not just on sand shots though).

 

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3 minutes ago, MattM said:

Your first post was "wedges arent really designed to help much if you fat it"  then below that you asked "What do you want them to do?"

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49 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

Sweet! I have the driver grinds and don’t find they dig any different than Vokey wedges. If I hit it fat, same result.

See? Since Scott was the only one to say "fat" it was in response to him.

4 minutes ago, MattM said:

My problem is that lately Ive been blading sand shots in wet sand, and I think subconsiuosly it's because (with my current LW) even when I know I hit the sand where I want and with an open face I was struggling keeping it from digging way too deep which didn't let the ball get enough distance out of the sand.  I think I've been trying to be too fine about it and it leads to blades every now and then.  

Hoping these make it easier (not just on sand shots though).

That's not really why, though.

You're hitting much too far behind the ball if you're getting digging. You can pretty much hit an 8I (squared up, not laid open) from a green side bunker with good technique and the ball and everything will come out just fine. It might dig a little more after, but you shouldn't be taking much sand behind the ball. Whether the clubhead digs or not, it shouldn't have much of a chance to do one or the other by the time the ball is moving.

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It's a weird action.  Its not like a typical dig though because the sand is soupy.  If I hit 2 inches behind out just I guess "digs" and the ball goes about 10 feet, but if I try to hit an inch or less (I'm not good enough to hit that close) I blade it.  Dry sand I'm fine...ball comes out high and spin sometimes and I get the club head through. But not in soupy sand though...

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7 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

My bad @MattM. I misread your post. 

No problem man!

Anyway, you guys did help...I was really just concerned with the sharpness of the (for lack of a better term) "srcondary" leading edge and if it would hurt what I was trying to get out of these wedges when I told my wife I wanted them for Christmas.  It appears it won't hurt but may or may not help.

I'll know when I get to use them on the course though.

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4 minutes ago, MattM said:

Anyway, you guys did help...I was really just concerned with the sharpness of the (for lack of a better term) "srcondary" leading edge and if it would hurt what I was trying to get out of these wedges when I told my wife I wanted them for Christmas.  It appears it won't hurt but may or may not help.

I don’t know what a “secondary” leading edge is, but I can tell you that the grind and relief serve an important role in the utility of a wedge. Without changing technique, I was able to hit flop shots off a mat with an Edel wedge that I couldn’t with my old Vokey. That’s what convinced me to switch.

Congrats on your new wedges.

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22 minutes ago, billchao said:

I don’t know what a “secondary” leading edge is, but I can tell you that the grind and relief serve an important role in the utility of a wedge. Without changing technique, I was able to hit flop shots off a mat with an Edel wedge that I couldn’t with my old Vokey. That’s what convinced me to switch.

Congrats on your new wedges.

I've attached a picture showing what I mean.  Most wedges have one "edge" some are rounded some are angular but these have two angular edges (the "normal" one and the "secondary).  This is a first time i've ever seen that before.  

That said, I thanks for your feedback on how much easier your's were to hit!  I'm now excited to really try mine out.  

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So as some my have read my wife bought me two Edel Wedges for Christmas.  I got a 62 and a 56 degree both 1.5 inches longer than standard (to match my one length irons) and with the driver grind at 22 degrees of bounce.

So, granted, it was one round, but I got a number of shots with both.  The 56 I use for pitches of between 30 yards to 80 yards and the few shots I had with that were fine.

Where I really noticed a major difference was with the 62 degree.  I had one shot from a soupy fairway from about 15 yards off the green that I had to hit a floppy shot on.  Normally with that soupy fairway I don't think I would have gotten my old lob wedge through it well enough.  With the driver grind and 22 degrees of bounce I was able to hit a fairly good shot (given the lie) that wound up about 9 feet from the hole (not bad for me).  

I had a better shot hole 12 that was about 18 yards from the hole and in the rough (still kind of soupy) .  I didn't want to take a chance with it lob so I hit nor of a left hand centered chip shot.  I thought I hit it a tad too hard (usually with my old wedges if I flew a chip to the hole it would bounce about 15 ft past) but this shot litterally landed a foot in front of the hole spun REALLY hard and kissed the flag stick (if no stick it would have went in) then stopped a ft from the hole allowing me to save par.

I normally would have though I got lucky with contact but the next hole I hit my approach halfway up the green which was a good shot but it proceeded to spin backward and roll off the green.  I then had a 25 yard chip from the fairway and hit the chip again it right at the flag and lands about a foot in front of the hole SPINS HARD again and kisses the flag stick while stopping again about a foot from the hole allowing me to save par again.

I guess this could also only be because they are brand new or not but so far I'm able to get a good amount of spin on my chips I wasnt able to before. 

About the only negative so far is that I'm kind of hesitant to practice with them for fear of the milling being prematurely worn off and losing the ability to add so much spin.  

Oh also I went to the range and practiced a few sand shots with the 62 degree.  It makes normal sand shot (with drier raked sand much easier).  The problem right bow is that no sand on the course is raked so tried using it to hit out of unranked soupy sand and I've cone to the conclusion that a normal sand shot isn't possible for me (even with the edel).  I kind of worked out that I can open the clubface and sort of hit a chip trying to get ball and sand at the same time.  That seems to work.

Anyway.  My opinion so far with these wedges is that it was money well spent!

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