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Will Smith vs. Chris Rock  

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ChetlovesMer Incredible Member

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43 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

The Oscars could be canceled and it would be missed for about a week.

It wouldn't take that long for me. 
I will say this is the most interesting thing that I can remember ever happening at the Oscars. Truthfully, I probably wouldn't have known the Oscars even happened if not for this incident. 

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24 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

This. Do you see the problem here. It’s ridiculous. WS assaulted another person on stage. Period. What if a total nobody ran to the stage and slapped Rock. Would nothing had been done? Of course not. The Academy clearly showed the privilege that exists amongst the elite. 

I hope we are not talking past each other. I do see a/the problem. They are not going to treat everyone on equal footing. I get it. I am not defending them at all. 

But I also see the difference between a total nobody and a nominee who is/was their headliner of the evening. 

 

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2 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

It wouldn't take that long for me. 
I will say this is the most interesting thing that I can remember ever happening at the Oscars. Truthfully, I probably wouldn't have known the Oscars even happened if not for this incident. 

The Oscars had 15.4M viewers this year. That's not an insignificant number.

Tiger's 2019 Masters win peaked at 18 million viewers.

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10 minutes ago, iacas said:

The Oscars had 15.4M viewers this year. That's not an insignificant number.

Tiger's 2019 Masters win peaked at 18 million viewers.

Oh, I'm not mocking the Oscars. I just normally never hear about it. I never think about it. But I'm hearing about this.

My point is that there are probably a lot of folks like me who don't follow the Oscars. Just like there are a lot of folks who don't follow The Masters, or Wimbledon, or what ever. When something like this happens. It goes outside the bounds of the fans and even the fringe fans. Non-fans are now talking about it. Forming opinions, etc... I've heard tons of people talking about this incident. More so than I ever hear talking about the Oscars itself.

So, two schools of thought:

1 - Any press is good press.

or

2 - People like me who normally don't follow it, only hear about it when an ugly incident occurs. 

 

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1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

WS assaulted another person on stage.

FWIW, it would be misdemeanor battery at most. Uncalled for yes, but we’re not talking a felony here.

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I love the Oscars.

Have been watching it religiously for over 35 years since I have had access to TV. I learn about a lot of movies - foreign, independent, lot of actors that I would not know about. The wife and I usually embark on a 2-3 month spree post Oscars seeking out particularly interesting nominees/winners and watching them. 

I have as genuine interest in them as anyone who loves movies as entertainment and art and I am genuinely mad at Will S. No one would classify me as rich or elite.  

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29 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

Oh, I'm not mocking the Oscars. I just normally never hear about it. I never think about it. But I'm hearing about this.

Chet, I know you know this, but you're one person. Just because you never think about soccer, maybe, doesn't change the fact that it's a huge deal around the world.

29 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

My point is that there are probably a lot of folks like me who don't follow the Oscars.

No shit.

This goes back to this: "The Oscars could be canceled and it would be missed for about a week." Which you said "it wouldn't take that long for me." So, bluntly:

  • The original take is wrong. It would be missed by millions.
  • Your "support" of the additional take is not only further in the wrong, it includes only one person's perspective.
24 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

FWIW, it would be misdemeanor battery at most. Uncalled for yes, but we’re not talking a felony here.

IANAL (unlike your wife), but I'm pretty sure it's assault and battery.

I think I've heard it as "assault is the threat, battery is the act" or something.

"This is definitely assault and battery."

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Anyone remember that racist piece of shit John Wayne going ape shit and having to be restrained over the Indigenous American woman?

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Battery is the contact, yes. But if this happened outside of this venue, it would still be minor. It was a slap, not a punch and he walked away. If you did this to me and I pressed charges, I think the police would talk me out of it and just ask you to apologize. Because it happened on National television, it’s become a bigger event. If Smith slapped Rock at the after party, it would still be wrong, but much less of a spectacle.

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3 minutes ago, colin007 said:

Anyone remember that racist piece of shit John Wayne going ape shit and having to be restrained over the Indigenous American woman?

Let's stick to the current topic, please. This isn't a gateway to talk about barely related racial topics.

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Double Mocha Man Super Member

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8 minutes ago, Sandy Lie said:

Opening clip for next years Oscar’s!

When Chris Rock came on stage for last night's event in Boston he should've worn a football helmet.  Now that would've been funny...

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1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

FWIW, it would be misdemeanor battery at most. Uncalled for yes, but we’re not talking a felony here.

Exactly. So handle it.😁

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1 minute ago, Vinsk said:

Exactly. So handle it.😁

It’s not like Agent J neutralized him.

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9 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

It’s not like Agent J neutralized him.

Lol. Ok so my thoughts: ‘ Mr. Smith I’m sorry but you’re gonna have to leave based on your actions. We can’t condone your language and your slapping of Mr. Rock. I’m sure you understand.’

‘If you refuse to leave I’m afraid we will have no choice but to ban you from the next Oscars and perhaps indefinitely.’ If you agree to leave we will leave discuss what actions may or may not be needed for the future. You have caused a great disruption to this production and humiliated Mr. Rock.’

’You’re a reasonable person and surely you understand our position.’

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1 hour ago, iacas said:

Let's stick to the current topic, please. This isn't a gateway to talk about barely related racial topics.

More closely related to the topic at hand since it's another comment that Rock made. I'm definitely NOT on team Rock

https://variety.com/2022/awards/news/summer-of-soul-chris-rock-oscars-1235219657/amp/

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21 minutes ago, colin007 said:

More closely related to the topic at hand since it's another comment that Rock made. I'm definitely NOT on team Rock

https://variety.com/2022/awards/news/summer-of-soul-chris-rock-oscars-1235219657/amp/

What does this have to do with WS slapping CR?

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1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

Lol. Ok so my thoughts: ‘ Mr. Smith I’m sorry but you’re gonna have to leave based on your actions. We can’t condone your language and your slapping of Mr. Rock. I’m sure you understand.’

‘If you refuse to leave I’m afraid we will have no choice but to ban you from the next Oscars and perhaps indefinitely.’ If you agree to leave we will leave discuss what actions may or may not be needed for the future. You have caused a great disruption to this production and humiliated Mr. Rock.’

’You’re a reasonable person and surely you understand our position.’

And Will Smith would have replied F/U... and I'm not leaving until I pick up my hardware.

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