Overrated Players

[iacas]

Heh, they are :

1. Colin Montgomerie - He's the most prolific British winner in European Tour history with 31 titles and a record eight money titles (including seven straight, 1993-99). But how great can you really be if you're 0-for-your-career on the PGA Tour?
2. Chris DiMarco - Ok, he drained a 13-footer to clinch the Presidents Cup for the U.S. in 2005, and he played on a couple of Ryder cup teams (2-4-2 record). But Mr. D is winless in the last five years. And he has just three victories — and no majors — in his 14-year career. Definitely more sizzle than substance
3. Davis Love III - Nineteen Tour wins and enough money to buy Qatar will get DLIII into the Hall of Fame, but here's all you need to know to understand how much (or little) he has gotten out of his mind-jarringly prodigious talent: John Daly has won twice as many majors (two) as Love.
4. Tom Lehman - A Greg Norman protege in the How To Get Famous for Losing category. Golf's Greatest Husband and Daddy has won five titles, including a British Open, but his career highlight reel starts with a slew of infamous lowlights from his trio of U.S. Open crashes (see, for example, 1997, Congressional, snap-hook into the drink at 17). His beloved persona could make this one-major man a Hall of Famer.
5. Charles Howell III - Tiger's junior golf buddy and rival from Augusta, Ga., has the talent, most observers believe, to win multiple majors. But the 28-year-old doesn't even have multiple top 10s in majors. Give him credit, though: he does have multiple Tour wins (2) and multiple dollar winnings (almost $16 million).
6. Stewart Cink - Being the highest-ranked player on the Tour's career money list who has not won a major earns an automatic exemption onto this list. Cink is ninth with $23,361,405. The poor young man (well, poor in the figurative sense) must have recurring nightmares about that double-bogey on the 72nd hole at Southern Hills that cost him the 2001 U.S. Open.

Frankly, I agree with all of them, though I'll admit they're reaching a little towards the end.

[jamesbei]

For Me -

1. Luke Donald
2. Michelle Wie
3. Rich Beem

Worst With Majors-

1.Ben Curtis
2. Todd Hamilton

Underated
1. Paul Casey

[Craig Mac]

JOHN DALY and DAVID DUVAL, 2 guys that had their time and now I am offically tired of hearing about.

[BASHERBAKER69]

Heh,

Well, weve been here before. Its difficult to say that any of them are overrated- look at their bank balances!

Monty- he is a high achiever on the Euro tour but has not done much in America. Reason: he has not elected to play over at Uncle Sams that much. Its difficult to say that any of the above are truly overrated because who plays on tour must be good. They all have the ability to be great on their day. Davis Love is one of my favourite players in golf: I love his dress sense, does a lot for charity, has bee a great player for a very long time, and i admire his mental robustness after what happened with his brother in law and the money. John DALY: he has 2 majors- how can he be overrated? Duval-1 major, and 17th on the pga tour all time earnings list- despite his troubles we cannot view him as overrated surely?

[Thrash13]

It really depends on what is considered overrated. The first four mentioned on that list are WAY down on the money list right now and really aren't even mentioned when talking about top golf. If anything, Lehman was underrated for portions of the late 1990s and early 2000s.

Charles Howell III hasn't lived up to half his potential, but he is ranked 50th in the world. That's not exactly overrated. He finishes in the top 10 and 20 quite a bit every season, and that's about the norm for top-50 guys. I agree Howell is "overhyped" but not "overrated." There is a definite difference there.

Lastly, Cink is one of the most underrated right now. He is a hell of a golfer and is never really mentioned when talking about the world's best. This article almost seems to be basing everything around the majors instead of the entire body of work. Hell, Monty doesn't even play the PGA Tour, and the article lists the most overrated PGA Tour players.

If the list was most overhyped, I'd agree. But the overrated term really doesn't make sense in the article.

[NM Golf]

JOHN DALY and DAVID DUVAL, 2 guys that had their time and now I am offically tired of hearing about.

Neither of those two are overrated though. I am not sure what you are getting at, but this is a thread for overrated players not over-publicized. I don't think people think too much about Daly except maybe, whats wrong with him, or how the heck did he win two majors.

David Duval is a sad story, former #1 that loses his game. But overrated? No. My List: Colin Montgomery - Choker, enough said Mike Weir - Pops up now and again but really...not a force on tour Jason Gore - make a big splash on tour has his moment and hasn't done jack since. Chris DiMarco - The article says it best Aaron Baddeley - Stack and Tilt my a$$, was going to be a world beater as a young amateur in Australia, and has never done much, two tour wins, 10 missed cuts, and no top 10's in majors. In fact has only finished inside the top 50 once in 14 major appearances. Tommy Gainey - not really overrated but merely overirritating. $30,000 in 10 tournaments this year on the PGA Tour, thats what you get for looking like an idiot with 2 gloves on.

[BASHERBAKER69]

Perhaps it would be better to ask: 'Who rates himself the highest on the PGA Tour but has no right to'.

[Craig Mac]

Neither of those two are overrated though. I am not sure what you are getting at, but this is a thread for overrated players not over-publicized. I don't think people think too much about Daly except maybe, whats wrong with him, or how the heck did he win two majors.

Point well taken, it just seems like whenever they play the announcers always do some back story on them and what they are doing to get back in to the game, and if they actually make a cut it seems the perception is they are "coming back", but I guess this falls in to the over-publicized arena not the overated.

[Thrash13]

but I guess this falls in to the over-publicized arena not the overated.

Exactly. There is a difference.

[Jeepthrills]

Lastly, Cink is one of the most underrated right now. He is a hell of a golfer and is never really mentioned when talking about the world's best. This article almost seems to be basing everything around the majors instead of the entire body of work. Hell, Monty doesn't even play the PGA Tour, and the article lists the most overrated PGA Tour players.

I like Cink. He seems like a good guy and is a very steady player. However, I would call him overrated as he has not won since 2004 and has had a few Sunday collapses recently where he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I think in these cases we have to use overhyped and overrated similarly. There is a world ranking. It is results based. You can't fake it too much. However, it is possible for a guy to climb the ranks by finishing well regularly but not quite getting it done. DiMarco and Cink are both good examples of that.

[MrKadash]

Completely disagree with Montgomerie, Love III, and Lehman. These guys are in their 40's and way past their primes. I would have agreed with Colin years ago when he was winning everything overseas, but couldn't get anything done on this side of the pond. How can they be over rated when they aren't even competitive now (as in talk of winning before a given tourney begins)?

[Thrash13]

I like Cink. He seems like a good guy and is a very steady player. However, I would call him overrated as he has not won since 2004 and has had a few Sunday collapses recently where he snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

Do you really have to win to not be overrated though? If you gave me a choice between 100 top-five finishes or two or three wins, I'd take all the top-five finishes (these numbers aren't in any way related to Cink or any other golfer). Cink hasn't won in a few years, but he is a damn good golfer. Is Paul Goydos better than Cink because he won last year and finished runner-up two weeks ago? Not at all.

Wins shouldn't determine whether or not someone is overrated or not. As for the final-round collapses, everyone other than Tiger has those on occasion. I'd rather put myself in contention that many times, that's for sure.

[Backspin]

If you mean overrated as in media hype then I would say all American golfers are overrated. I think the numbers are what they are and the golfers are as good as their numbers.

[wolverine318]

Worst With Majors-

Todd Hamilton and Shaun Micheal are way more than Ben IMO. At least Ben has a few more tour victories under his belt and pops up on a leaderboard every once in a while. Not that anyone is rating them very highly anyways lol

Luke Donald has to be up there. I agree a lot with the OPs list.

[allin]

If you mean overrated as in media hype then I would say all American golfers are overrated. I think the numbers are what they are and the golfers are as good as their numbers.

Including Tiger?

I have to say guys like Chad Campbell, are more what I think of. Golfers who we keep hearing have great games, but rarely contend or win. Lots of top 20finsishes. It seems like the media shines it light on superficial elements, leading tour in distance, gorgeous flop shots, elegant looking swing etc. What makes great players past and present different is their sheer determination to somehow get the ball in the hole period. They are all very talented, but I bet there are 50 guys on tour with more physical talent then Jim Furyck, Trevor Immelman also seems to be that kind of guy. Tom Weiskopf is probably the classic example. Not fair maybe, because I don't think he ever really wanted it that bad, others establish the grades, based on what they think you are capable of.

[golf_junkie27]

I believe expectations exceed performance. So many times I hear "This guy is a great golfer." While, that may be true, in a general sense, it is not true by PGA Standards. A guy may win a tournament and we don't examine how he actually won. Was it because someone else collapsed? Was his ball striking so much better than it's ever been? Was hit putter on fire?

There is constant criticism about Sergio Garcia, yet, he has the most wins of any sub-30 player on the PGA Tour. You never hear about this, though. Just his "hiccups" and "attitude."

As for Chris DiMarco being overrated, he's a Tiger miracle chip away from winning Augusta. He lost the PGA championship in a playoff to Vijay Singh. These things, happen.

Personally, a player's performance is his "ability." My expectations of a player don't exceed my eyes. Like a pretty girl, what I see is what I get. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Backspin]

Including Tiger?

I think Tiger is over-hyped. I agree he is the greatest of his generation and may one day be the greatest ever, but he's still over-hyped. Tiger this, Tiger that, 24 hours a day in the golf world, 23 hours a day everywhere else.

No one is worth that hype.

[TheGolfingDetective]

... (Tiger) he is the greatest of his generation and may one day be the greatest ever, but he's still over-hyped.

Um. He's possibly the greatest golfer who ever lived and he single handedly keeps televised golf afloat.