Jump to content
IGNORED

"The Impact Zone" by Bobby Clampett


iacas
Note: This thread is 1634 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

  • Administrator
Discuss "The Impact Zone" by Bobby Clampett here.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Very Very Very good book. If you "hit" at the ball, this book will open your eye's to how it is really done.

It has also changed the way I practice. No more pounding 100 balls on the range. All I do is pitch and chip working on my "forward swing bottom" 4 inches ahead of the ball. The difference in my ball striking is dramatic.

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Just some fyi:

I Hit 12 of 14 fairways and 14 of 18 greens today and shot 76. All due to reading this book. That and putting much better w/ my new Spider putter. Moving my "forward swing bottom" has to be the best thing that has ever happened to me. Thank you Bobby Clampett!

The best part of this is that I don't spend any money on the range anymore. Just 3 balls, putter, and wedge. I hit about 30 pitches working on impact and it just translates to the full swing. I think the range ruins the golf swing b/c most amateurs don't have a clue as to what we are doing while practicing.

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • 2 weeks later...
This isn't from the book, but it shows what I'm talking about with the "Forward swing bottom".

http://www.playperfectgolf.co.uk/Mas...wing%20arc.htm

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


All I do is pitch, chip, and putt. The impact position of a pitch shot is the same as a full shot. So I focus on having the bottom of my swing occur as far to left of the ball as I can. Basically, instead of looking at the ball during the swing, as soon as I start my take away, I shift my eye's focus to a spot 3 to 4 inches ahead of the ball. Passive hands through impact. Twice a week I spend about an hour and a half. I usually take 3 balls to the practice green, wedge and putter. I pitch them up and putt them in from all sorts of places and distances. Keeping score. Getting up and down is Par, Pitching it close to within a club length is a birdie. I usually do this for 18 imaginary holes.

In the backyard, I just pitch about 40 balls to a bucket, working on the impact position of the flat back of the wrist and taking my divot ahead of the ball. I do the same thing when I play, with all full swings, chips, and pitches.

This has really worked for me in so many ways. I strike it better and more consistently during events or practice rounds, plus my short game has improved a bunch. No big secrets. Full swings on the practice range just don't lead to any improvement for me. Actually, I feel like it makes it worse. I just try to focus on what is important, impact, and let my subconscious handle the backswing and downswing.

I'll warm up on the range, but no more than 15-20 swings before I head to the practice green.

Also, it didn't take long for me to start seeing improvement. After the first session I noticed a difference. Go get the book, so you can understand what I'm referring too. Then try it out. You have nothing to lose.
  • Upvote 3

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


After reading "The Impact Zone," I began understanding the game much more than ever before. While I don't go as crazy with the pitch/chip practice as longfornothing, I spend 50-75% of my practices hitting half shots, only focusing on moving my forward swing bottom 4 inches in front of the ball and lagging my load. It creates a stress free practice environment and allows me to have more fun while playing.

The most important take away from the book is that the look of your swing is meaningless; once the fundamentals are mastered nobody will care what your swing looks like because you'll be hitting fairways and greens. And they'll be diving too deep into their wallets to pay out all the greenies, skins, wolfs, and cowboys you win ;)

In my sunmountain.gif bag:
Driver  cleveland.gif  '09 Launcher 9* with Fit-On M Red X
Hybrids:  titleist.gif  585.H 21* with YS-6+ S, 585.H 17* with NVS Aldila X
Irons:  callaway.gif  Tour Authentic X-Prototype 4-PW with X100
Wedges:  callaway.gif  X Series Jaws 52*, 56*, 60*Putter:  callaway.gif  Tour Blue TT2Range Finder:  bushnell.gif  1500 TE

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • 3 weeks later...
Bobby is playing in the Nationwide Tour Utah Classic. He was in the top 10 at one point today. Didn't finish watching it so don't know where he stands. Pretty good player.

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Just finished this book and I have to say, not a lot of new stuff here. In my opinion, the principles are good, especially the flat left wrist, but in reading reviews prior to purchase I was expecting more. I didn't find the description of the "aiming point" very adequate so that section completely missed for me. I'd recommend this book for beginner to intermediate level players primarily because of it's focus on a few basic fundamentals. Not that there isn't any value to more skilled players but as a long-time student of golf swing theory I found this relatively elementary. Pretty well written and some fun anecdotes from Clampett so not a waste of money by any means.
ITB
Ping Si3 10* Grafalloy Blue
Mizuno F-60 13.5* Exsar FS3
Mizuno CLK FLI-HI 17* Exsar HS2
Mizuno MP-67 4-PW DG S300Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 54Titleist Vokey Spin Milled 58Bobby Jones 64Titleist Cameron Stainless Newport 2Titleist ProV1x
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Yeah, I don't think a 4 hcp would get anything "new" from this book either. But for all the hackers out there, it has good info.

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • 3 months later...
This book is excellent for intermediate and advanced golfers looking to get to about scratch or better. He talks about general "dynamics" you need to exhibit in your golf shot...not about positions and pivot styles. I have not had a chance to try out the forward aiming technique yet, but I do agree with his theory about the forward swing bottom. My only minor complaint is that the images are sometimes too small and the layout gives it a weird Microsoft Word feel. Overall one of the best books I have read because of his universal "dynamic" point of view.

R7 TP 8.5* Fuji Speeder x-stiff (heavy,low,fade set)
975F 3W 13.5*
FX Tour Grind Nickel 3-PW +1/2", Rifle 6.5
Vokey SW 52*
CG10 LW 60* 3 dot (14* bounce) Tracy putter 35" (hit R but putt L)+ 1 club TBD...Past home courses: Unicorn GC (Stoneham, MA), Forest Creek GC (Round Rock, TX)Ball: Use...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • 3 weeks later...
This is one of the best books to discuss the impact zone without "lag and drag pressure necessary for a 2 line delivery path"

I love the insight into golf's True Fundamentals: Divot, Lag, Pivot, Target Line. How you choose to address these is your unique pattern.

Its a little like a snowflake: They are all different falling down, but when they land and melt, they are all the same.

Swings are all different, but everyone takes a divot, creates lag through a pivot, and has a straight line to their target.
Link to comment
Share on other sites


Unfortunately, I won't be able to put any of my reading of this book into practice for another 8 weeks or more, when the snow is gone. I generally liked the book, BUT, he makes the point early, which I get and think is very interesting, then the book wanders a bit from that, in my opinion. I thought there should have been a lot more photographs. He talks up all of the technology that allowed viewing of the swing at various positions, etc, but try and find some good photos at impact and just after in the book, there really aren't any, and it would have been so easy to include many more photos from different parts of the swings shown (and in color, why not?). I am anxious to put the information to use and try the drills discussed, I just think more thought put into showing what he means would have been helpful, because the narrative isn't always focused.

909D3 (Voodoo, stiff)
King Cobra Comp 5w (YS 5.1 Stiff)
AP1 4,5; AP2 6-P; Vokey 252 08, SM56 14, SM60 08 (Nippon N.S. Pro 950GH Regular)
Newport 2 Mid Slant

Link to comment
Share on other sites


WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Exactly. That's a good synopsis of what Bobby Clampett is preaching and a better photograph than any in his book. Really would have liked some good, sequenced shots ala Golf Digest, showing the lag, position at impact, etc. I think it would have added to the book.

909D3 (Voodoo, stiff)
King Cobra Comp 5w (YS 5.1 Stiff)
AP1 4,5; AP2 6-P; Vokey 252 08, SM56 14, SM60 08 (Nippon N.S. Pro 950GH Regular)
Newport 2 Mid Slant

Link to comment
Share on other sites


All I do is pitch, chip, and putt. The impact position of a pitch shot is the same as a full shot. So I focus on having the bottom of my swing occur as far to left of the ball as I can. Basically, instead of looking at the ball during the swing, as soon as I start my take away, I shift my eye's focus to a spot 3 to 4 inches ahead of the ball. Passive hands through impact. Twice a week I spend about an hour and a half. I usually take 3 balls to the practice green, wedge and putter. I pitch them up and putt them in from all sorts of places and distances. Keeping score. Getting up and down is Par, Pitching it close to within a club length is a birdie. I usually do this for 18 imaginary holes.

I practiced chipping around the green for several hours each day last week and my irons, driver got better, plus I cut 3 strokes off my short game. I also developed a 3/4 iron shot that use with one more club for a lower controlled approach shot into the greens with an easy swing, a Eureka moment for me, just by practicing the short game and concentrating on making solid contact with chipping.

Titleist 910 D2 9.5 Driver
Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
Mizuno Mp33 5 - PW
52/1056/1160/5

"Yonex ADX Blade putter, odyssey two ball blade putter, both  33"

ProV-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites


That is good to hear. I too stepped up my practice to doing it everyday in the backyard. 50 yard pitch shot with a PW or GW. My yard is all torn up. Oh well.

Keep doing it. I'm way more consistent with my irons than I was before. Practice is the only way.

WITB:
Driver-B'stone J33R 9.5* Pro Force V2 65S 44.5"
3w/5w-B'stone J33R 15-18* NV75 Stiff
3h Ping G10 21* TFC Stiff
irons-Mizuno Pro II w/4-9, MP-T 47 PW, currently have DG S300. X100 Soft Stepped 1x or PX 6.0 are on stand by.GW Mizuno MP-T 53-9* DG R300LW Titleist Vokey SM 58-12* DG Wedge flexT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites


That is good to hear. I too stepped up my practice to doing it everyday in the backyard. 50 yard pitch shot with a PW or GW. My yard is all torn up. Oh well.

Thanks for your reply. I started a thread under Grill called practice diary, that I invite you to document your practice sessions.

Titleist 910 D2 9.5 Driver
Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
Mizuno Mp33 5 - PW
52/1056/1160/5

"Yonex ADX Blade putter, odyssey two ball blade putter, both  33"

ProV-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Note: This thread is 1634 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Popular Now

  • Posts

    • Yea, they are overthinking that golf hole. Maximize fairway, minimize hazards.  For me, moving to one side of the tee box or other is a confidence thing. It also helps me with aim, and not being influence by the orientation of the tee box. 
    • Good points all. My coach has something similar to these, but not these ones specifically. He was telling me they are bespoke made for him by a scientist he works with. He showed me my pressure info and compared it with Padraig Harrington's. Mine looks pretty similar to his in directions and timing and so on, but my max GRF is something like 130% of my bodyweight, while his is something like 180% of his bodyweight. So while I'm doing it sort of right, I'm not doing it enough. That was pretty eye opening for me and helped me understand what I need to do. They don't get used all the time by any stretch, but if there's something that he wants me to work on and it'll show up on the force plates, then we break them out. I think that basically mirrors your point 4 exactly. Regarding point 3, yes I think they are. You can say "you want that arrow to be pointing up, back and right", but until I can stand on the plate and move around until I get the line where I need it to be, I don't really know what that means or how to get it there. Sometimes you get yourself in a spot where it's simply impossible to get the line to move there without falling over, but it's very useful to understand why that happens and what you need to do to fix it. 
    • And Titleist Trusoft are 11.99 (white) or 15.60 (yellow) per dozen. Amazon.com Edit: just saw these are sold as used. Sorry. Still…
    • That's incredibly helpful, thank you!  I've been working on my posture quite a bit based upon your lengthy posture post from years back.  Here is a picture of my old posture - hopefully it's better now compared to then.  I've been trying not to stick my butt out and trying to get rid of the arch in my lower back.  It does feel a bit too upright at times, so the idea of engaging the legs more might do wonders.   I used to have a terribly unbalanced sway to my right.  When I'm struggling and hitting the ball thin, it really feels like my low point is behind the ball at impact.  I end up flipping to reach the ball and still hit thin with lower back pain.  I was afraid of my old habit of swaying too far back and not being able to get fully recentered, so I'm focusing on maintaining a centered pivot.  That being said, I still feel like I'm hanging back too much on my right foot at impact, but when I try to get further left at impact, I just can't do it.  Is it correct to say that shifting right early in the backswing can actually make it easier to properly finish with my weight left?  I'll give it a try tonight on my simulator and see how it goes.   Thanks a million for the input, it's so greatly appreciated!
    • I would say hang in there. I do get where you're coming from. My history follows if you're interested (or if you're not, it's still here, but you don't have to read it 🙂 ) I started playing in 1990 (14 years old). I got steadily better every year and reached about a 5 handicap when I was 18 (this is on the old CONGU system in the UK, which lags changes in ability much more than the WHS system). I took a year off between school and university to see how good I could get. I finished that year off a 6 handicap. That wasn't the best, but I did funnily enough get a lot better over the period. Then went to university, got into the golf team there and my first year we won the British Universities. That's a year long thing. 6 universities in a round robin that you play home and away, then the top team goes through to knockout. I think about 5 rounds of knockout. Got down to 2 by the time I finished university, then started work and got down to scratch a year later. 1998 summer I played some of my best golf. Broke the course record at my club (and shot 98 for 27 holes in a two round event - last 9 not so good). Then in about 2000 I got a hiccup in my driver swing. I'd get very stuck and hit these high blocky cuts out right. Couldn't release it. I went from +0.5 to 1.9 (up 2.4 shots) in 27 rounds. The way the system worked is your handicap goes up 0.1 if you shoot worse than 1 over your handicap, so 24 out of 27 rounds were worse than that and 3 of them were at my handicap or 1 over it. It was awful. I pretty much stopped hitting woods. Just used irons everywhere. My irons were still decent so I could still get a reasonable round going from time to time, but try as I might I couldn't get to grips with it. Then I got chip yips too - that was fun. My handicap ended up about 2.4 I think. Then I moved to the US in 2007 and didn't really play a whole lot for the next year or so.  Then I started playing a bit more once I'd got to grips with how to get out to play from living in NYC. Sort of stumbled along playing around a 2-4 handicap level for a few years and moved out to Long Island when my son was born. I found a local pro who was well thought of and he was quite technical, which worked for me - I am technically minded. I've been working with him for about 7 years or so and my current handicap is +0.3. I think I have one score in the past 12 months that wasn't a tournament score and I've played maybe 20 rounds this year (10 of which were in one week in April and 6 of those were only playing every other shot). I'm pretty much rusty every time I play, but I've put some pretty good scores together this year, including a 72 on Bethpage Black in a tournament - I was quite pleased with that.  Long story short - there is a path out of this. There was for me and I'm sure there will be for you. You might need to find a new coach or try something new somehow, but don't give up. The game is worth it.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...