Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
Note: This thread is 6208 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

Posted
I worked out a couple of weeks ago that i wasn't really watching the ball, i was just looking the general direction of the ball. It was as usual on the 18th tee of an awful round that i worked this out. I told a mate this (he's off scratch) and he asked me where on the ball I'm looking and i had no idea. I have since started to focus on a point at the back of the ball, and my ball striking has hugely improved.
After that ramble, where do you look at the ball, do you have a specific spot or just generally at the ball.
Cheers

Posted

I had a caddie at Bandon Dunes this past summer who gave me a tip that I've started to use. He said (and I'm paraphrasing), it does no good to tell someone to keep their head down. Most people don't know how to translate that statement into action. Instead, he likes to tell his clients to "focus on a single dimple of the ball." That tip is actionable, and it forces you to keep your head down. I started focus on a dimple, and sure enough, I started hitting the ball straighter.

So, now, with every dozen balls that I purchase, I draw a small eyeball on a dimple of the ball to remind myself of that tip.

What's in My Bag?

Driver: 10.5° KZG SP-700 with Fujikura SIX Regular Flex Shaft | 2h: Adams A7OS Stiff | 3h: Adams A3OS Stiff | 4h: Nike Slingshot Steel | 5i-PW: Adams A2OS | Sand Wedge: Cleveland CG14 56° 3-dot | Lob Wedge: Cleveland CG15 60° 3-dot | Putter: Fisher CTS-9 Polyurethane Face

Posted
I don't look at the ball. I focus on keeping my spine angle in tact, and I know that ball is positioned properly and this usually works. If I start hitting the ball a bit fat, I'll focus on the back of the ball, but I don't typically need to do this.

In the bag:
Driver: r7 quad v2 stiff
3-Wood: XLS
Hybrid: X
Irons: CG Golds 3-GWSW: x forged 56/13LW: Vokey sm 60/.08Putter: Callie 35''Ball: pro v1


Posted
It varies for me, but for a while I was working on hitting down with my irons and found that focusing on a spot on the front of the ball was the best. It helped concentrate on hitting through rather than at the ball.

In the bag:
FT-iQ 10° driver, FT 21° neutral 3H
T-Zoid Forged 15° 3W, MX-23 4-PW
Harmonized 52° GW, Tom Watson 56° SW, X-Forged Vintage 60° LW
White Hot XG #1 Putter, 33"


Posted
I told a mate this (he's off scratch) and he asked me where on the ball I'm looking and i had no idea. I have since started to focus on a point at the back of the ball, and my ball striking has hugely improved.

I had similar advice years ago and it still works for me. It's a useful tip.

Instead, he likes to tell his clients to "focus on a single dimple of the ball." That tip is actionable, and it forces you to keep your head down. I started focus on a dimple, and sure enough, I started hitting the ball straighter.

Quite like that suggestion! The single dimple is good and the eye drawn on it should help the focus. Do you position the dimple you're focusing on at the back (i.e. where the impact will be) off the tee? What do you on the fairway etc when you can't lift and place?

Home Course: Wollaton Park GC, Nottingham, U.K.

Ping G400, 9°, Alta CB 55S | Ping G400, 14°, Alta CB 65S | Adams Pro Dhy 18°, 21°, 24°, KBS Hybrid S | Ping S55 5-PW, TT DGS300 | Vokey 252-08, DGS200 | Vokey 256-10 (bent to 58°), DGS200 | Ping Sigma G Anser, 34" | Vice Pro Plus

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Posted
I know that i hit the ball best when i focus on a spot towards the back of the ball but often i let my concentration slip and just look in the general direction of the ball.

In my ozone bag:

905r 10.5 Graphite Design YS-6+ R
909 F2 15.5 Aldila VooDoo Fairway S
Benross VeloCT Resuce 21 Grafalloy ProLaunch Platinum R MX300s 4-PW KBS Tour S MP-T10 50/8 Chrome 54/11 and 60/7 Studio Select Newport II 35"


Posted
I'm terrible at watching the ball. It's such a simple thing to do but I find with everything else I'm too busy worrying about with my swing I just forget about it.

Posted
i usually draw a small red dot that i can focus on. it actually helps me a lot.

Good idea, I am going to give this a try since I hit my Irons fat and take my eye off the ball.

Posted
I had a caddie at Bandon Dunes this past summer who gave me a tip that I've started to use. He said (and I'm paraphrasing), it does no good to tell someone to keep their head down. Most people don't know how to translate that statement into action. Instead, he likes to tell his clients to "focus on a single dimple of the ball." That tip is actionable, and it forces you to keep your head down. I started focus on a dimple, and sure enough, I started hitting the ball straighter.

"Don't lift your head" is like saying "stop sneezing" if someone asks what they should do about their allergies. Lifting your head is a symptom of losing your focus on the ball. For me, I create of a mental image of the club head addressing the ball and maintain that thought throughout the swing. I've found if you give your mind a picture, your body can execute it.

As a corollary, I think picturing the ball flight is only useful if your mind can translate that ball flight into ball contact. This means, you need to understand how the club face has to address the ball to create the desired ball flight. I think exceptional players do this automatically as they learn while in childhood. The rest of us have to work harder and really create this mental image to give our bodies a map to execute. Have fun, jg

Posted
I actually don't watch the ball but instead I watch my backswing and the same for the putting.

Titleist 910 D2 9.5 Driver
Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
Mizuno Mp33 5 - PW
52/1056/1160/5

"Yonex ADX Blade putter, odyssey two ball blade putter, both  33"

ProV-1


Posted
I actually don't watch the ball but instead I watch my backswing and the same for the putting.

This is what is crazy about golf - two completely different techniques, yet solid results.


Posted
I generally look directly in front of the ball and try to envision that as the bottom of my swing for full shots. Keeps me from topping it.
I don't need to do this for chipping/pitching for some reason, and instead can just focus on hitting down into the ball.

In my C-130 Cart Bag:

Driver: Titleist D2 10.5° Aldila R.I.P. 60
Woods Exotics CB4 15° Aldila R.I.P. 70
Hybrids Exotics CB4 17°, 22° Aldila R.I.P. 80 

Irons 4-PW MP-57 Project X 6.0, MP-29 PW

Wedges  Eidolon 52°, 60° Rifle Spinner 6.5

Putter Bettinardi BB12

Ball One Black

Rangefinder Nikon Laser 500"Golf...


Posted
I usually look about a ball width in front of the ball so the divot is in front of the ball.

In My Callaway Warbird Stand Bag

Driver: Burner 9.5#
Fairway Wood: Burner 15*
Hybrid: Sumo 18*Hybrid: 22*Irons: :AP1 4-PW Rifle 5.5Wedges: G12 52,56,60Putter: C 67


Posted
Quite like that suggestion! The single dimple is good and the eye drawn on it should help the focus. Do you position the dimple you're focusing on at the back (i.e. where the impact will be) off the tee? What do you on the fairway etc when you can't lift and place?

Obviously, I can't move the ball when its in play. So the only time I can put my ball mark where I want it is on the tee or on the green. When it's on the tee, I put my single-dimple ball mark pointing stright up at me as I'm standing over the ball in my swing stance. The mark is always in the center of the ball... not back or front. I don't usually have a problem pulling my head up when I'm putting, so I don't use it then. Although I could. (If only that third eye on my ball would help me read greens better then I'd be set! I hate 3-putting!)

What's in My Bag?

Driver: 10.5° KZG SP-700 with Fujikura SIX Regular Flex Shaft | 2h: Adams A7OS Stiff | 3h: Adams A3OS Stiff | 4h: Nike Slingshot Steel | 5i-PW: Adams A2OS | Sand Wedge: Cleveland CG14 56° 3-dot | Lob Wedge: Cleveland CG15 60° 3-dot | Putter: Fisher CTS-9 Polyurethane Face

Posted
As a corollary, I think picturing the ball flight is only useful if your mind can translate that ball flight into ball contact. This means, you need to understand how the club face has to address the ball to create the desired ball flight. I think exceptional players do this automatically as they learn while in childhood. The rest of us have to work harder and really create this mental image to give our bodies a map to execute.

Even though this is slightly off topic, I have to say thanks for posting this. I recently read Zen Golf, and have been trying to visualize the shots I hit, but I was still hitting about the same. It appears that I was doing it wrong...

Let's hope it works.

Driver: Big Bertha 460 11* w/ Graffaloy ProLaunch Blue 65R
Woods: Big Bertha 3 and 5 wood stock shaft, Light flex
Hybrids: None
Irons: Viper Tour 4-PW -1", 4* flat
Wedges: X-Tour 52.11*, 58.9*Putter: Classic 3 33"The Thing That Goes In The Hole (hopefully): NXT Tour"30 minutes a day keeps...


  • 4 weeks later...
Posted
I tend to try and look at the same spot on the ground about half way between my left heel and my centre line... So depending on the club it depends if I focus on the ball or a blade of grass, twig etc...

Driver - face a logo to the club face and focus on that....

Hy/Long Irons - about 1 cm in front on the ball

Short irons - about a ball length in front

I always try and focus on something small but noticable rather than a general area..

"Let the bears pay the bear tax I pay the Homer tax!"


Note: This thread is 6208 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 11: did mirror work for a while. Worked on the same stuff. 
    • I'm not sure you're calculating the number of strokes you would need to give correctly. The way I figure it, a 6.9 index golfer playing from tees that are rated 70.8/126 would have a course handicap of 6. A 20-index golfer playing from tees that are rated 64/106 would have a course handicap of 11. Therefore, based on the example above, assuming this is the same golf course and these index & slope numbers are based on the different tees, you should only have to give 5 strokes (or one stroke on the five most difficult holes if match play) not 6. Regardless, I get your point...the average golfer has no understanding of how the system works and trying to explain it to people, who haven't bothered to read the documentation provided by either the USGA or the R&A, is hopeless. In any case, I think the WHS as it currently is, does the best job possible of leveling the playing field and I think most golfers (obviously, based on the back & forth on this thread, not all golfers) at least comprehend that.   
    • Day 115 12-5 Skills work tonight. Mostly just trying to be more aware of the shaft and where it's at. Hit foam golf balls. 
    • Day 25 (5 Dec 25) - total rain day, worked on tempo and distance control.  
    • Yes it's true in a large sample like a tournament a bunch of 20 handicaps shouldn't get 13 strokes more than you. One of them will have a day and win. But two on one, the 7 handicap is going to cover those 13 strokes the vast majority of the time. 20 handicaps are shit players. With super high variance and a very asymmetrical distribution of scores. Yes they shoot 85 every once in a while. But they shoot 110 way more often. A 7 handicap's equivalent is shooting 74 every once in a while but... 86 way more often?
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.