Jump to content
Check out the Spin Axis Podcast! ×
IGNORED

Jack vs. Tiger: Who's the Greatest Golfer?


Greatest Golfer (GOAT)  

222 members have voted

  1. 1. Tiger or Jack: Who's the greatest golfer?

    • Tiger Woods is the man
      1627
    • Jack Nicklaus is my favorite
      820


Recommended Posts

Posted
I think Tiger is too moody... Jack was the best... Tiger will get there... just not today.

Mike

Posted
I think Tiger is too moody... Jack was the best... Tiger will get there... just not today.

Tiger will get there by default, but that still doesn't mean he could have been as successful under the same conditions Jack had to go through! Jack had to deal with taking down the Tiger Woods of that time, "Arnie's Army"!

In My Bag:
Driver: :Cobra Amp Cell Pro 9.5*, Stock X-Flex

3 Wood: :Cobra Bio Cell 16*, Stock X-Flex

5 Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 20*, Stock S-Flex
Irons: Bridgestone J40-CB 3-PW, Project-X 6.0

Gap Wedge::Vokey: 52* CNC  

Sand Wedge: :Vokey: 58* CNC  

Putters: Scotty Cameron Newport II 

Ball: Bridgestone 330-S(2014)


Posted
I grew up hearing Arnold Palmer stories since i am from western PA, but i cant imagine watching anyone play like tiger is playing now.

Posted
I think Tiger will be the greatest I mean the guy just dominates and he is still young.

Keep it on the short grass.


Posted
I am sure Tiger is better due to better conditioning and equipment. Due to this it is not comparing apples to apples.

However, given how relatively unforgiving the equipment was back in Jack's day, you got to give him a lot of credit.

I went to high school with Jack. But never really met him. He was a senior when I was a freshman! LOL!

Rick
www.golfclubplayability.com

Posted
i think tiger is better because he has a strong competition, phil michaelson, sergio garcia, henrik stenson, vijay singh, rory sabbatini is on a roll right now. jack had only palmer, player and hogan. when tiger is in the lead, he never loses it, jack has lost it a couple times

r7 quad tp
ignite t60 3 wood
580h 19* hybrid
irons 670
wedges 52*, spin milled 56*, 60* rosa putter daytona prov1xhome course:3 pines country clubthe carolina country club


Posted
i think tiger is better because he has a strong competition, phil michaelson, sergio garcia, henrik stenson, vijay singh, rory sabbatini is on a roll right now. jack had only palmer, player and hogan. when tiger is in the lead, he never loses it, jack has lost it a couple times

See my post on page 7, I think you missed some of Jacks competition...

Lets take a moment to compare Jacks competitors to Tigers... Jack played against .... (Player and number of Majors) Gary Player 9, Tom Watson 8, Arnold Palmer 7, Lee Trevino 6, Seve Ballesteros 5, Raymond Floyd 4, Billy Casper 3, Johnny Miller 2, Ben Crenshaw 2, Tom Kite 1. all the while Jack was winning 18. (player and number of tour wins) Palmer 62, Casper 51, Watson 39, Littler 29, Trevino 29, Miller 25, Player 24, Floyd 22, Irwin 20, Norman 20, Sanders 20, Crenshaw 19, Kite 19. Jack had 73 wins Tiger played against.... (player and number of majors) Renie Els 3, Phil Mickelson 3, Vijay Singh 3, John Daly 2, Retief Goosen 2, Jose Maria 2, Mark Omera 2. ( player and number of tour wins) Vijay Singh 30, Phil Mickelson 29, Davis Love 19, Mark Omera 16, Fred Couples 15, Ernie Els 15, Corey Pavin 15, David Duval 13. Granted, Tigers competition is still playing, but I don't see any of todays players reaching 62 wins like Arnold did or even 51 like casper. They probably won't match Watsons 39 with the exception of Vijay.
T-Bone Marshall
Home Course: www.waldenponds.com (74.1/134) 7001 yds
in my bag
Driver: Big Ben cs3 10.5 Stiff/Draw set up
Fairway: Hogan Edge 3,5 metal:Irons: Hogan Radial-Apex shaftWedge: Hogan "Tom Kite" 56* Radial "E" wedgePutter: Affinity vr7 "V-Rod" pro-v1x ball2 markers, Disney divot tool,...

Posted
I would have loved to see these two guys against Bobby Jones with all of them in thier prime

Posted

Hmm...I say Tiger....But a hard one at that..Perhaps they will come out with a movie like Rocky Balboa and we will know the truth.

Eric Camper
Driver: 450*
Hybrid: Nickent 2/17*
Hybrid: Nickent 4/23*
Irons: Ti-100 5-SWPutter: Craz-e


Posted
Thanks for puting the numbers together Hogan Fan, that's been a part of my point all along.

My other point is the younger people on the board really have no idea just how popular Arnold Palmer was back in the early 60's. I don't think it's stretching it at all to put him in the same popularity level as Tiger today. Although Palmer had a great record at that time it was not quite up to where Tiger's is today, but it might have gotten there if Nicklaus would have never showed up.

Another thing that I don't think people understand today is that players had more moxy back then. Meaning they were not as easily willing to give in and say, "Well I can't beat you, your just to good". You hear players talk like that about Tiger all the time, but when Jack was dominating, players took it as a personal challenge to take him down.

I don't recall a major where Nicklaus jumped out to a lead and the rest of the field started playing worse and worse. Usually they would come at him with everything they had and Nicklaus would have to turn it up another notch to get the victory. Tiger gets a 2 or 3 shot lead in a Major, and by the end of the day it's up to 7, 8 or 9 shot lead, and he shoots a 71,,,lol(Well, not all the time but it has happened a couple times)!

One last point is don't buy into the point that once Tiger passes the 18 major mark that it automatically gives him "Greatest Ever" title. I know all the media and Tiger fans will officially crown him, but don't think for a minute that when Nicklaus was playing if the record was 18 at that time he would not have backed off until he had +20 or more. From 1977 -1979 he really backed off and started getting involved in family and other business propositions. I think 1980 when he came back and won 2 majors was his way of saying I miss the drama and I can still win a Major if I want to put in the time and practice. Then he went back into hibernation until that magical Sunday in 1986.

Greatest Ever: Jack Nicklaus
2nd Greatest: Tie between Bobby Jones, Tiger Woods, Old Tom Morris, and Harry Vardon!

In My Bag:
Driver: :Cobra Amp Cell Pro 9.5*, Stock X-Flex

3 Wood: :Cobra Bio Cell 16*, Stock X-Flex

5 Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 20*, Stock S-Flex
Irons: Bridgestone J40-CB 3-PW, Project-X 6.0

Gap Wedge::Vokey: 52* CNC  

Sand Wedge: :Vokey: 58* CNC  

Putters: Scotty Cameron Newport II 

Ball: Bridgestone 330-S(2014)


Posted
I'm a total newbie, so I don't know much about the players or the game. However, Woods is an inspiration to me and probably many more. Everybody knows him, even the people that don't play golf. There are not many other professional golfers who can say that .. I think.
Gear
Driver: G10 10,5° - regular flex
3-Wood: Burner Steel 15°
Hybrids: Benross V5 Escape 20°/3, 23°/4
Irons: Benross VX Combo OS 5i-SWGap Wedge: CG12 52° chrome finishLob Wedge: SM60.08 oil can finishPutter: White Hot XG #5AccessoriesStand Bag: GROMCart Bag: RC08-1Trolley: Big...

Posted

As exciting as it would be for golf and as a fan to see Tiger pass Jack's record, the traditionalist in me would like to see Jack's record stand. Like the ones Bobby Jones and Bryon Nelson have set and they still stand. Let Tiger go set a new record like the all time winner of the FED Ex Cup...lmao

TEE - XCG6, 13º, Matrix Ozik HD6.1, stiff
Wilson Staff - Ci11, 3-SW, TX Fligthed, stiff

Odyssey - Metal X #7, 35in

Wilson Staff - FG Tour ball 


Posted
i think tiger is better because he has a strong competition, phil michaelson, sergio garcia, henrik stenson, vijay singh, rory sabbatini is on a roll right now. jack had only palmer, player and hogan. when tiger is in the lead, he never loses it, jack has lost it a couple times

What? I think you are vastly underestimating the importance of mental toughness in the game of golf. As much as I may like some of them, Phil, Sergio, Henrik, Vijay, and Rory (?) have the collective mental toughness of a bowl of jello on a hot day. They aren't even playing the same sport that Jack, Arnie, Player, Hogan, and Trevino were.

The guys Tiger is playing against are beaten before the round starts. They are just happy to finish in the Top10, cash their huge checks, and move on. That said... this thread is dumb. Hogan is the greatest golfer ever.

"Golf is a game that is played on a five-inch course - the distance between your ears." - Bobby Jones

In my Ping Hoofer Extreme...
Triumph TC-100 1 iron
TaylorMade R7 Quad 10.5* and 15* BurnerTriumph 3-PW, TaylorMade 2Pinnacle GoldsA no-name blade handed down to me from my father, and to him...


Posted
My vote is for Jack. He never (as far as I can remember) threw a club or continuously whined about a hole or course. The title is who is the greatest. Tiger is probably physically better, but Jack wins the all-around award..

My $.02

R5 Dual 9.5
F50 16.5
R7 TP 3-PW
RAC Satin 52 and 56 deg
Vokey 59 deg Studio Newport 2 HX Tour 56


Posted
Tiger is the better player without a doubt. The competition these days is so much better. I can't recall an athlete in any other sport that came on the scene and actually forced his competitors to change the way they play the game.

For example, Tiger has forced all his competitors to start pumping iron and eating right just to stay competitive.

Driver: Launcher, 10.5°
Fairway: Big Bertha 2007, 15° & 18°
Hybrid: Rapture, 21° & 24°
Irons: Big Bertha 2006, 5 - PW
Wedges: Vokey, 52° & 56°Putter: White Hot XG, Rossie Ball: HX HotI'm not saying my golf game went bad, but if I grew tomatoes, they'd come up sliced. ~ Lee Trevino


Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    Carl's Place
    PlayBetter
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 51 (29 Apr 26) - Worked with a few of the golf team kids plus my grandson (he’s too young for the team as it’s middle-high school age and he’ll be 10 Sat).  He put on a small hitting clinic (hitting off the same tees as the rest of the boys) - one of the older kids called him a “coach”.  Worked in a few shots for myself - had the light bag: driver, 7w, 4 - 6 - 8 - Pw - Sw (DCI 962’s except the Sw a 981) and Zebra putter….got in some great tee shots, a couple of recovery and an awesome up and down for bogie: 55 yds out, hitting 4th shot due to 2nd getting tangled in limbs - see the window I need to hit for a tight spinner with the Sw - nail it to a postage letter distance from the cup for a tap in bogie….my kind of practice. 
    • Day 21, April 29.  Before going to work this morning, I worked in my indoor practice room for 20 minutes.   This was entirely 6-iron shots with the usual step.  Video yesterday showed me that I'm still straightening my trail leg too much (leading to the backswing length issue I've been working to fix), so I focused on not doing that in my rehearsal swings.
    • Exactly correct.   I was absolutely certain about the penalty (none here), but the bit about where they play from can be really confusing the first time you read it.  In my big paper rule book, i used colored highlighters to make it clear.  Good thing I did, at the Cascades there's little to no cell service, so using the rules app on the phone wasnn't possible.  
    • Taking a crack it, but looks pretty clear. 11.1  Ball in Motion Accidentally Hits Person or Outside Influence. a. No Penalty to Any Player If a player’s ball in motion accidentally hits any person (including the player) or outside influence: There is no penalty to any player. This is true even if the ball hits the player, the opponent or any other player or any of their caddies or equipment. Reading further down it looks like they have to play the ball as it lies. No replay from the previous spot. 
    • I had an interesting one yesterday, a local qualifier for the US Senior Open, at the Cascades Course at the Homestead.  Well, first things first, the VSGA arrnged for the officials to play the Cascades on Monday at the players' practice round rate.  Its lots of fun, rather old-style (built in the 1920s).  anyway, a player missed a short putt, and (apparently embarrassed) took a step to be ready to tap the ball back in.  The ball lipped out, and hit the player's foot.  I was nearby, and they waved me over, and asked "What do we do now?"  I was pretty sure of the ruling, but asked them to wait for a few seconds while i double-checked.  I did have it correct, even though its one of the more confusing rules in the book right now.  I'll leave the correct answer out for now, in case anyone wants to guess, or research it, and post their ruling.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.