clearwaterms

how do "you" define high, low, mid handicap golfers?

97 posts in this topic

How would you define a "good" golfer? What is your definition of an average golfer? What do you define as a high handicapper, mid handicapper, and low handicapper? How many people do you think just guess on their handicap?

In other words, in general terms, how do you rate the level of play of the golfers around you? How would you rate yourself against them? If Tiger woods is the top 1/10000 of the top 1%, where do the rest of us fall?
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sign up (or log in) today! It's free (and you won't see this ad anymore)!

Sign up (or log in) today! It's free (and you won't see this ad anymore)!

As to how to define a 'good' golfer, I think that's relative to how good you are. I usually consider a 'good' golfer to be someone under a 9 handicap or so, or who shoots under 80 a good percentage of the time (on regulation courses).

As for high, low and mid handicappers, I would probably define them as below. Because most players do not really have an official handicap, I just more by the scores they are shooting:

Low: Handicaps 8 and under (typically shooting in 70's)
Mid: Handicaps 9-24 (low 80's to mid 90's)
High: Handicaps 25+ (high-90's and up)

If someone can consistently break 100 I will consider than to be a mid-handicapper or better. I would consider scores between about 90 and 105 to be an 'average' golfer. I think the USGA says the average score is something like 96 (what that's based on I have no idea).
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

high handicappers- 90's+
mid handicappers- 80-90
low handicappers- 75-

anyone in the 76-80 range I consider to be in transition.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How would you define a "good" golfer? What is your definition of an average golfer? What do you define as a high handicapper, mid handicapper, and low handicapper? How many people do you think just guess on their handicap?

By comparison, the rest of us all suck! The people that beat me are better than I am. Those that I beat are worse. That's all I really care about. For those that haven't played with one, I will offer that someone that honestly plays off a "+" handicap is just stupid good.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

For me there are 5 groups rather than 3

Low: 60's to 76
Mid-low: 77-85
Mid-high: 86-95
High: 96-115

"Beginner": 116+
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For those that haven't played with one, I will offer that someone that honestly plays off a "+" handicap is just

I'll second that; scratch and better really is orders of magnitude better than ~5. I wonder what Mr. Woods handicap would be?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I always considered a "good" golfer to be someone who can shoot par on a regular basis. The rest of us fall in to varying degrees of "not so good."
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

High=20+
Mid=10-20
Low=under 10
IMO, someone is a "good" golfer if they can break 100 on a regular basis.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

high: 25+
mid: 24-11
low: 10-scratch
crazy:anything +


It really depends for a "good" golfer. The other day i was considered "good" as everyone played poorly. I would say anyone who shoots in the 80's is a "good" golfer.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are so many variables, and so many that do not play by the rules that it is hard to say. My 19 is an honest 19 I except for the occasional (maybe once every 5 rounds) where I drop at the boundary of OB for pace of play reasons and treat it as a lateral hazard (If I know it was OB I'll Rehit but sometimes you don't know).

So many people improve lies, don't count penalties correctly, don't putt out, etc...

I would do it like this: Low breaks 80 regularly, Mid breaks 90 regularly and high is everyone else, although those that can honestly break 100 are much much better than a lot of the hacks you see, so they get some credit, maybe as a mid/high. There is so much variation, for example in the last year I have shot between an 83 and a 111. Now I did have the flu for the 111, but still, that is quite a range. Broke 90 6/29 rounds and shot over 100 13/29 rounds.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Very High - 35 and higher
High - 27 to 35
Mid-high - 19 to 27
Medium - 10 to 18
Mid-low - 5 to 9
Low - 2 to 5
Very Low - Scratch to 2
retardiculously low - +2 to scratch
Pro-low - better than +2
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

An average golfer and an average handicapper are two different things. The average golfer shoots around 100. The average handicapper is about a 15, or better than a bogey golfer.

High handicap: 19 and up
Mid handicap: 10-18
Low handicap: 9 and lower
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I'll try a slightly different take on the answers:

High Handicap - Missing most swing fundamentals, and doesn't understand much about the swing. Occasionally gets a par or a very rare birdie, but mostly just tries to get the ball around the course without too much trouble. Tough courses won't be much fun. Index is probably >25 or so

Mid Handicap - Has some decent fundamentals, but still has some fundamental flaws in swing that reach up and bite hard. Doesn't quite understand the swing enough, though, to diagnose those problems and fix on course. Gets a number of pars and knocks in the occasional birdie. Has a number of blow up holes each round, though. Can place their shots just enough that they're starting to see the course strategy, but not consistent enough to take advantage. Index range is pretty wide, probably about 5 or 6 up to 25.

Low Handicap - Pretty solid fundamentals, with only an occasional problem that causes a wild shot, but skilled enough to limit the damage and rarely more than one blow up hole if any. Understands a lot of the swing and can diagnose enough on course to keep things on track. Understands course management, and has just enough game to look strategically at shots and execute what is needed most of the time. Can play any course in the world and enjoy it for how the designer intended. Index is around a 0 to a 5 or 6.

Scary Good - Repeatable swing with predictable shot shape. Can shape shots as needed. So consistent that course strategy is the major factor between scoring well. Bad luck is probably the biggest contributor to having a bad hole due to a funny bounce. Score is probably influenced the most by the putter - some days they just don't go in and he shoots even par, while some days everything goes in and shoots a 66. Index is +.
3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now



  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • 2017 TST Partners

    PING Golf
    Leupold Golf
    Snell Golf
    Talamore Golf Resort
    Lowest Score Wins
  • Posts

    • The driver is longer so the swing will be a bit longer than an iron swing.  I definitely do not make adjustments in terms of takeaway or downswing intention. RE Drivers vs 3 wood or less off the tee... On some of the tougher courses in my area I have scored some of my best rounds challenging the par fours with driver even when a lay up could easily get me to 150 in.   I know where I can miss there. 150 in is a benchmark of sorts for me. That said when traveling and playing even tougher courses that I am playing for the first time I usually play conservative off the tee.  Often for me on serious courses going for a par five in two is by far the wrong decision.   Really with game I have I just am not going to get at par fives It's so obvious where they give you room just looking at the scorecard.  Often driver off the tee same thing.  Just depends on the course/hole and ones capability.  90 percent chance of a good lie 155-160 out is way better than a 50 percent chance at getting to 120-130 in without being in trouble.  Often with elevated multi tiered greens you need to be able to land it correctly for a two putt par. Driver is a very important club        
    • DTL 9 Iron - Just went to the range after playing 9 holes. Much better contact at the range.  In this video I am trying to keep the club head more in front of me and shallow it going into A4.   
    • Regarding Shawn Clement. I followed him for a short while and I can see how his instruction might be helpful for certain people. He has some great tips and illustrations of "how" to perform certain actions that may or may not resonate depending on the individual. What he does not do however, is give one a good reason why and it is left up to the student to figure out.  Granted he also employs a couple of just plain weird  interpretations one of which is his comparison to a downhill skier's bobbing motion. I understand why he uses this, but also could be easily misconstrued by most. His main objective appears to get someone into position to repeat some basic moves. His practicing the "one leg" swing for example is all about not swaying. The bobbing motion is akin to dropping into the slot on the downswing. Either of these two could get you into trouble if you do not understand what you are trying to achieve. He really does not do a good job of explaining why and just goes on the assumption that you "get it". That being said, his methods work very well for some and I truly believe he is good at what he does. He is not alone in this. There are a number of instructors that seem to have taken ownership of a one-size-fits-all piece of instruction and they focus mainly on just a few points. One emphasizes "powerless arms" another "body pivot". This is not to say they do not have other really good bits, but these are the most prevalent and can be seen repeating in many of the different videos they put out. I have a favorite, but won't espouse my preference here. Its just that I understand immediately what he is trying to get across and his delivery is one that works for me. He can be very simple, yet if needed, as technical as any. Anyway...my views. Yours may differ and that's okay too,
    • My personal rule is if I'm going to hit ESC, pick up. Doesn't matter where I am, I'll just watch my partners finish the hole. Hit two balls OB off the tee? Time to walk to the next hole.
    • 39/41=80. With more doubles than bogies.  
  • Blog Entries

  • Today's Birthdays

    1. JLeeWildcat9
      JLeeWildcat9
      (31 years old)
    2. Ping Man
      Ping Man
      (53 years old)
  • Get Great Gear with Amazon