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For me it was 60 degrees.

It's been a few years back. Results were so-so with it.

Now I see there are 64 degree wedges available....that seems freakish....but I'd still love to hit one and see.
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Used 60 for one round. went back to 58 the next day..lol.
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I used one of our members 64* for a round once….never again! What a waste. My 60* is my go-to club inside 90 yds.

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I have a 64* and love it. I don't understand why people are so scared of high lofted clubs. I think I hit it much better than my 56* but part of that is just because I simply suck with my 56.

If you want a flop shot around the green the 64 will get it up in the air... I've even used it out the sand with much success.

I stumbled upon mine though. I used to work at a nice golf course in Huntsville (part of the robert trent jones golf trail) and it was a lost and found club that had been there for so long they let me have it. It's an old mcgregor... Might upgrade to a 64* vokey some day.
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I have a 64* and love it. I don't understand why people are so scared of high lofted clubs. I think I hit it much better than my 56* but part of that is just because I simply suck with my 56.

The 64* wedge is a tough, non-versatile club that is tough to master. I don't think it is right for that many golfers (as it is extremely limited in its applications) particularly higher handicap players.

But hey, if it works for you great.

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The 64* wedge is a tough, non-versatile club that is tough to master. I don't think it is right for that many golfers (as it is extremely limited in its applications) particularly higher handicap players.

I don't disagree with you. I've often heard that higher lofted wedges, even 60*, are for better players. But for some reason I'm better with my 64 than my 56.

I think it's partly do to the fact that you can just play a nice pitch shot or chip without having to open the face because it's already lofted so high. Therefore you just make your normal chip or pitch swing and it'll get the ball up for you, eliminating some adjustments. I only use it when close to the green and need the ball to.. well... flop... although this one is old and doesn't spin much so you have to account for some roll.
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Hybrid 3: SQ2
Irons 4 - AW: r7SW: Vokey SM 56FW: 64Putter: fastbackBalls: NXT Tour

Posted
I played a 60 for years before switching to a 58* 3-4 years ago. I always liked the higher lofted wedges because I liked to hit 'flop' shots. Now my most lofted wedge is a 56 and I don't see a reason to go more lofted. I still have an older 60 that I coudl throw into my bag if I saw a need, but as I've improved I've found that the 56 is as versatile as I need and I can hit just about any shot with it that I could with a 58 or 60.
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Although the highest lofted club in my bag right now is a 54*, I'm gonna have to go with Stan Utley on this one - 58* is more than enough. I've hit 60* wedges in the past but struggled too much with it. 58* is juuuuuust right :)

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Posted
For me it was 60 degrees.

I had a 64° wedge 20 years ago. It was a freakish oddity then, and it still is now.... except maybe in the hands of someone like Phil Mickelson. Now I carry a 58° and that's plenty to get the job done.

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I don't carry my 64º regularly, but don't fear using it. I carried it once on a course and actually used it to get over some high trees that was between me and the green. I actually got over and onto the green. If I blade the ball with my 64º, I'll do it with my 56º too. I actually find it useful to play around with a more lofted club to get used to how I must hit down on the ball with the other wedges. Still, my 56º and 60º are what I carry, and they get the work done.

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To be sure were on the same page... I rarely hit a full shot with a 64. So if I had to get over trees it's definitely not what I'm going to use. I primarily use it for flop shots around the green, trying to stick it close.

About Phil... I am going to get a gap wedge of 52... so I'll use 52, 56, and 64. 56 for chipping and when there is no trouble between me and the flag... 64 for flop shots. Phil carries a 52, 56, 60, and 64. Why would you need a 60 and a 64? Wouldn't one or the other get it done?

But hey, he makes mega bucks playing golf... I pay mega bucks to play golf.
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I've played a 60* but find it a little too specialized and limited in application for my tastes, and to be honest, there's not much that can be done with it that I can't do with a 58* or even a 56*.

I have a low bounce 58* that I'll swap out my 3 iron for when the course and conditions warrant it. But other than that, my 56* sand wedge gives me plenty of loft and flexibility.

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3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
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I have a 60 that is bent to 58, pleanty of loft for me. I think that bounce is more important than loft if you want to have a variety of shots.

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Just a 60* for me. Used it a couple times and went to my 58* Vokey.

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F50 15* 3 Wood
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Posted
I always used a 60° - and i dont like it, and i would never go for a 64. Bending the 60 to 58 is a really good idea before i trash that thing in the bin... That club probably lost me more strokes then any other club in the bag by trying going for tight elevated pins with high soft shots.

I practice this thing a lot, but its a nightmare on full shots/long pitches when the ground is too soft or too dry and even then you have to hit it sooo clean and flush (not trying to undercut it) to get the desired yardage, that i try to use sandwedge or less whenever possible. Honestly, if i practice pitching my 54 is like 9.5 out of 10 solid pitches and 60 is more like 7 out of 10 - thats not a sucess rate you want to have since this number drops on the course even more.

The only place that thing is really useful for me is out of the sand but then it doesnt really matter if its 58 or 60 since i open the face anyway and the bounce does the rest...

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Posted
I have played a 60 for about 18 months and I like it. I have had the opportunity to practise plenty with it so I know what shots to use it for. There are rounds when I don't use it same as there are rounds when I don't use my 56. The wedge I use most is my 50 GW. Never used anything higher, but I'm pretty confident on full and partial shots with the 60 so don't see why I wouldn't hit a 64 reasonably well also.

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