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On 6/29/2009 at 8:08 AM, mdouet said:

I recently got a lesson from my course's pro to get my swing back on track after taking a year off (swing was a wreck when I quit last year and wasn't much better this year). The first thing he changed was my grip, he said my grip was too strong and that I need to adopt a neutral grip. This felt horribly unnatural, but I stuck with it as I saw good results at first. Then out of the blue I became a pusher of the ball, I'm talking 45 degree pushes out to the right. I also started severly slicing my long irons and woods, badly, can't keep anything on the fairway now.

I read some books and they all mentioned that a slice can be cured by adopting a strong grip, so I went back to my old comfortable strong grip and now my pushes and slices are gone. I've been fighting with my swing for a week, going to the range every night and getting horribly frustrated at the results, and it was all because of a change my instructor forced me to do.

I know if I go back to the same instructor with a strong grip he will spend our whole $60 session telling me to switch back to a neutral grip, should I find myself a new instructor, or am I getting a false positive my switching back to my strong grip? Is it possible that the strong grip is just better suited for my swing or is my instructor right and I need to change my swing to resolve the pushes and slices (if this is the case I give up because I've been trying to do this for a week and my swing has just gotten worse)?

Fwiw I only read this post.  I have not seen the grip you refer to as strong or neutral.

I know one thing though.  Changing to slightly stronger in the left hand really helped me.  

I like Nelsons view on grip more than Hogans.  Think about it Hogan fought a terrible hook...


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@Jack Watson, You quoted a post from 8 years ago. ;-)

Grips are something that a golfer just has to figure out what works best for them. I am of the opinion that golfers can benefit more from a strong grip versus a weaker grip. 


7 hours ago, softjones said:

Everyone is different.

^This

This is a pretty good thread on how to grip the club, 

 

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To me everything Hogan said on grip was really good,  but he dropped the ball on what works as far as strength for most.

Sorry,  Saevel,  wasn't paying much attention obviously.


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6 hours ago, Jack Watson said:

To me everything Hogan said on grip was really good,  but he dropped the ball on what works as far as strength for most.

Sorry,  Saevel,  wasn't paying much attention obviously.

You didn't break the record though for commenting on the oldest post! I think the record is 10 years. :-P

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8 hours ago, Jack Watson said:

To me everything Hogan said on grip was really good,  but he dropped the ball on what works as far as strength for most.

Hogan didn't write about what works for most. He wrote about what works for him. His feels.

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54 minutes ago, iacas said:

Hogan didn't write about what works for most. He wrote about what works for him. His feels.

And some of it may have been lost in translation if Gary McCord is accurate.

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