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2 Questions for low handicappers....

1 - what are your thoughts in general on this article/method?

2 - I think I understand most of how this is supposed to work, but from that impact position, my wrists seem to resist rolling over. In other words, getting from the first pic to the second pic is not smooth for me. Any advice here?



Been playing just a few months but I play almost every day.

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It works. I discovered this some days ago and has since sliced maybe 2 shots on the course. I have however developed a tendency to hook the shots, not preferable, but better than slicing anyways. I'm working on getting it square.

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It works. I discovered this some days ago and has since sliced maybe 2 shots on the course. I have however developed a tendency to hook the shots, not preferable,

I wouldn't say hooking is better. My scores have gotten a lot worse with hooking the ball because once they get to the trees they keep going


Depends a lot of what course you normally play. On mine I definately want a hook rather than a slice. The hook is also less pronounced. I think it's better because it shows I'm doing something different and finally managed to get rid of the slice I've been hitting for the last...5, 6 years. I also think it's easier to work back to a square clubface from a closed than an open.

I'm not going to settle for a hook, so it won't call it a wanted shot, my goal is square. I've also got a slightly in-to-out swingpath, so a slice goes further off the line than my hook, which comes back over.

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Exaggerated positions. Sometimes exaggeration works to get the feel for something. After you get the feel, then you need to tone it back to more natural positions. JMO

In the first photo in your post, I think his hips are not turned enough and his hands are too far forward at that point after impact.

well, looks fairly straight forward to me. the only thing is, if you don't yet know how to control your clubface with your wrists, which is particularly hard at any level, you might very well start hooking the ball dreadfully.

Keep a soft left elbow in your follow through. It should stay pretty close to your side and you shouldn't have a problem getting in that position. Your follow through should almost mimic your back swing (straight left, bent right on back swing, and straight right and bent left on follow through.)

I do think the photo's are exaggerated, but as far as what the wrist and forearm should do at contact and after are correct.

He is also staying on his right side and not shifting his weight. This will create a hook every time and most often a pull hook.

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I wouldn't say hooking is better. My scores have gotten a lot worse with hooking the ball because once they get to the trees they keep going

I think Lee Trevino said "you can talk to a slice but a hook won't listen".


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