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hey guys i have a question.

im a junior in high school, and my goal is to play golf in college, whether its a d1 school or a d3 one.

i was wondering how good i have to be to play in college.

When i was a soph. i won 1 golf meet and placed 10th in a big golf tournament. that was about all i did a sophmore i did not have my swing back yet because of winter, thats my biggest problem, during the summer im always 4-5 shots better than in the spring

so yeah im guessing you HAVE to go to state at least one year. one guys i knew went to state as a junior and senior and he got 2nd place both times, and now hes golfing at some school in Arizona.

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Single digit handicaps would be what I'd think would be the minimum.

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I know a kid who's a 1.x and couldn't make a lower level d1 school. I know a few kids who are sub-3 handicaps and played d3. So, I'd think to play on the team (not just intramural) you'd have to be at most a 5 to even play d3.

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My best guess is a 5 handicapp or lower. 2 of my buddies growing up shot high 70's , low 80's in high school and that didnt cut it. They ended up not making it. They still went to college but did not play golf.

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I have never played college golf so I don't know exactly what you need, but my guess is probably at least 5. My suggestion would be to call the schools that you would like to attend and see what their requirements are. This would at least give you an idea as to what you need to do to get in.

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I played two years of college golf at a D1 school, at the time the golf program wasn't exactly in peak form (which is most likely the reason I had a chance to play as a walk-on )... Back then if you could shoot 300 for four rounds you qualified for the team... I would think that these days you would need a handicap of 3 or better to have a shot at making the team... Just my two cents

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I think it really just depends on the school. There are a lot of different Div I schools - there's a huge difference in the SEC/ACC/Big 10/Big 12 and something like the OVC.
I know several people whose tournament scores in high school averaged 70-75 and they played at smaller Div I schools with no problem.
I know a guy who was very similar to them who went to an SEC school and couldn't cut it (transferred in the middle of his freshman year to a smaller school).

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Go to each schools athletics website and see what the avg score is for their middle to worse players, then realize they are playing from the tips on pretty tough courses. I would say you could average no more than a 77 on said courses lMO.

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I played two years of college golf at a D1 school, at the time the golf program wasn't exactly in peak form (which is most likely the reason I had a chance to play as a walk-on

Maybe I misunderstood this. 300 over 4 rounds is an average score of 75. Isn't that around a 3 hcp anyway?

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Maybe I misunderstood this. 300 over 4 rounds is an average score of 75. Isn't that around a 3 hcp anyway?

No, you're correct... If you shot 300 for 4 rounds you qualified for the team automatically, if you didn't the coach made the decisions on who made the team... I missed the 300 mark by 10 shots but still made the team and then had the chance to qualify for each tournament... Like I said, the golf program wasn't exactly in top shape at the time and I was lucky... At another school I probably wouldn't have had a chance... This was Southland Conference 20 years ago

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I was around a 5 or 6 when I graduated high school and I played at a decent sized D2 school. I can tell you that some of schools we played had kids shooting in the 90s also some had kids shooting in 60s. Best advice find a school that has a major you're interested in and a school you will like then worry about golf. Plus most colleges have intramural golf which can be a lot of fun.
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Maybe I misunderstood this. 300 over 4 rounds is an average score of 75. Isn't that around a 3 hcp anyway?

That would be about a +3 average, but it would be more like a 1 or 2 handicap. Handicap is always lower than your scoring average.

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Handicap is always lower than your scoring average.

Not necessarily.

Course could have a rating of 68.0, par of 72, and slope of 113. A guy who shoots 72s and 78s in equal quantity (so the 72s would count for handicap but the scoring average is 75, or +3) would have a handicap index of 3.84 and a 4 course handicap. It just depends on what the course rating is and if the combination of that, the slope, and the 0.96 multiplier conspire to keep your handicap down below your round average. Plus, if you're wilder (more variance in scores) that'll have an effect. And the times when the course rating is that far below par is rare (though not really from the forward tees at a lot of courses).

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I have never played college golf so I don't know exactly what you need, but my guess is probably at least 5. My suggestion would be to call the schools that you would like to attend and see what their requirements are. This would at least give you an idea as to what you need to do to get in.

I'm a sophomore in high school and my friend a senior is the same handicap as me and is probably going to a d4 school. He doesn't care what school he goes to he just wants to go somewhere where they will let him play. I think to be able to have a choice in where you want to play you need to be somewhere around a consistent scratch or lower golfer. I'm hoping to get there by my senior year

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It all depends on the school. I went to my school to play baseball, hurt my arm and wasnt able to play. Decided to go out for golf the next year and I was prob around an 18 or so, i wasnt on the starting 5 but i was still there. This year i was down to a 15 or so and played a lot. Granted my school is small but there is always a place to play. We have some kids who are a 5 handicap and there are a couple of schools we play who they have one guy who can shoot under 100. So if u want to play there will always be a school for you

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It doesn't matter what the sport is, it goes like this:

If you're "that good", then someone will find you. Otherwise, if playing your sport in college is more important to you than anything else then you pretty much just start calling the schools you want to go to and finding out how to make their team until you find a school where you can play. Then you see if you can get in. If not, keep going down the list. You're going to have to go to a school where you can be on the team, rather than getting on the team where you go to school...if that makes sense. It may be some craptastic school in the middle of nowhere that has been last in their conference for 30 years, but if you want to play and that's the only place you can make the team then that's what it takes.

Frankly, unless you love the game THAT much that you're willing to put academics and everything else a distant second just so you can make the golf team then what you might want to do instead is find a school that you would actually want to go to that has a club team or intramural program, but where you may not be able to make the team. It may not be NCAA competition, but you'll get to play competitive golf and actually enjoy college. And who knows, maybe that's where you'll get the game you need to make the team or you'll get noticed by another school where you COULD play NCAA golf.

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I've been in touch with a few American universities about scholarships for a couple of our promising youngsters - one has got down to below 3 and the other is better than +1.

The reaction was pretty similar. They're interested in anyone with a handicap of 4 or better but they want to see results, too - Junior championships, record in the Faldo Series, etc.

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