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These, mainly because they're mine. Golden Ram Tour Grind Axial, Frequency Matched, Precision FM 6.5 shafts at +3/4".  [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/68263/] [/URL] Tried and liked lots of different things, mostly blades or similar. These just fit me nicely.

very nice was looking out for a set of the full blades quite hard to find ram were not that popular in the England and Ireland


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Hi there just got a set of Hogan Apex II on the internet for 50 pounds, really good condition for clubs that came out in 79 no wear spots atall and chrome looks good. Fitted with AMF Apex Pro shafts 4, cant wait to try them out have new set of grips ordered for them. Also have a set of Slazenger SB-02 these are almost new really beautiful set but shafts are very soft R300s Have a set of S300 to put into them when i get a chance. Also have a bit of a  Mizuno collection TP 19 and Z's (half a blade) but my favorite set are the Hogan Apex[URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/88221/] [/URL]  99s look good and much easier to hit that TP19s.

got the grips of and found this


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So far in my collection of Ben Hogan irons I have; 1968 - Plus One 1975 - Producer 1979 - Apex II 1999 - Apex Plus 1999 - Apex Pro 2005 - Edge CFT

which set do u use if u wanted to win, i bought the edge cft 3 iron with steel shaft, what a brilliant club ball really explodes of the face


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John Letters Master Model, double flange.  Wonderful irons, which Gary Player and Lee Tervino played.. But best of all (and I have had almost every blade iron made) is the 1999 Ben Hogan Apex.  They have a good degree of "bounce" in the sole, and a lovely "buttery" feel.  The only drawback is that if you want to change the shafts, they take taper tip, but are of such soft steel, they are easily drilled out to 0.370" for parallel tip shafts-----I have done this on my set, which comprises 2-SW, plus 54degree gap wedge.

Hi which shaft did u put in? I've got apex 4s in my set and they just feel very soft, also ball flight is very high, through I'm not quite sure if its the shaft cos also had a set of ftx apex 4 a swells they gave a very low flight too low.


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Hi which shaft did u put in? I've got apex 4s in my set and they just feel very soft, also ball flight is very high, through I'm not quite sure if its the shaft cos also had a set of ftx apex 4 a swells they gave a very low flight too low.

Never played them but I love the high toe(flow) weighting


  • 2 weeks later...
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TaylorMade Tour Preferred TD 2,3-9 Iron Set Golf Clubs @@ TAYLORMADE @@ (i678)

These are the sticks I learned to play with. As I turned into an equipment junkie and the oversized clubs became the rage, I was convinced that if you could hit these you could hit anything.

I still have these in the basement, pull them out when I'm swinging well


  • 3 weeks later...
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Hi

As a 5H you should already know the truth about that, but consider this as a small reminder :o)

70% in the brain

20% in the shaft

10% in the "club"

Do not focus on Whatever you call Tour or Blades.... they all are different and the same in many ways...

Do you really need to play blades ? Forged irons / cavity back.... just try as much as you can and get some

that you like and feel comfy with.

Blades "Tour" will not in any way lower your H...as much as practicing and thinking properly on the course... because this all about the score at the end...

Trust your club, trust yourself, but never rely on new equipments improvements....at the end there are only very few each year, and marketing announcements are always way more impressive than scientific researches.

Enjoy.

Alexandre


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So... any word from Cali? lol PS - Golfsmith Professional Grind blades were THE best irons of ANY kind EVER. And that's not my opinion. That's objective, universal truth.


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From my personal experience... Been playing for 4 years, I'm a 4 handicap. My first set I bought used for 75 dollars at a course near me in Ohio that has one of the best rated pro shops in the Midwest so equipment selection was great. They were Titleist DCI 990's and I absolutely loved them. Felt smooth when struck properly and could work the ball high, low, left, right. Last year I bought a set of Mizuno Mp-32 with only two rounds used on them for 200$... I really like these clubs. I've been more consistent but for some reason lost some distance. I'm ok with the loss in distance and gaining consistency and precision. I think distance was a pride thing when I first started playing, and I still get about 160 out of my 8 iron with the mp-32s... My point is that different clubs will have different advantages and disadvantages for everyone. Its nice to have this forum so you can have an info base to use when considering clubs, but i think the most important thing is to try any set out before buying, and try multiple sets. You might think you love a set until you try another set and REALLY love that one lol...

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Hi As a 5H you should already know the truth about that, but consider this as a small reminder :o) 70% in the brain 20% in the shaft 10% in the "club" Do not focus on Whatever you call Tour or Blades.... they all are different and the same in many ways... Do you really need to play blades ? Forged irons / cavity back.... just try as much as you can and get some that you like and feel comfy with. Blades "Tour" will not in any way lower your H...as much as practicing and thinking properly on the course... because this all about the score at the end... Trust your club, trust yourself, but never rely on new equipments improvements....at the end there are only very few each year, and marketing announcements are always way more impressive than scientific researches. Enjoy. Alexandre

I think Alexandre just about summed it up perfectly haha.... I agree completely


  • 2 months later...
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Ive played for about 5 years now.  Ive always  had an affinity for forged blades.  In my opinion they look like irons are supposed to.  Ive played the before vintage Wilson Staffs and the FG 17s and just purchased a set of Hogan Apex PCs at a pawn shop for  60 bucks.  I have learned that the correct shaft makes all the difference too.  At the moment im gaming MP 37s in my bag with R300 shafts.  Im playing the best golf of my short golfing career so far.  Play what feels good to you.............my 2 cents worth


  • 11 months later...
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I still have them in my bag and will nly use them for a long time to come. It is April 2015 and I've had them since 2000. Although I paid full price for them back then, what a deal. They last for at least 20 years in my opinion due to the cast construction. Something that will not happen with forged clubs. Although people buy forged clubs now-a-days the 990 DCI irons sweet spot is better than my friends forged. They have shorter shafts (about 1/4 inch) for more control, and pre 2003 & 2007 (change over to stronger lofts to trick people into buying new and improved irons that go farther) weaker lofts. But cast clubs have hotter harder faces so they go just as far. The mishits are brutal feeling (just like new 2015 blades), but at least I know I miss hit it as I can not say the same for game improvement clubs. The negative shot disperion with misshits isn't that noticable. I got some Lamkin grips that no longer make my hands hurt with misshits. At the price of $70 on ebay, why do people buy the CBs? They actually have the same design. the most clasic design ever!!! I absolutely love these irons,but be warned, if you wouldn't play with blades than these might be too advanced for you. I might paint fill them with blue or neon green to make them feel like new irons. The best purchase I have made in my entire life are these irons. I see people buying new irons every year, how stupid. Pick you up some of these and at the price it will be the best buy you have ever made.

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The old saying "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". There's lots of really good blades out there, from even as far back as the 70's or even further if your so inclined. For me, it's the 1980-84 Hogan Directors. Now if you wish to play a set of these or any of those folks have referenced, take a few things into consideration. The lofts are weaker, the shafts most likely are shorter and in truth the original shafts are most likely weakened by age and the may have rusted from the inside out. So by the time you re-shaft, re-grip and perhaps re-set to modern lofts, if your so inclined, you may be almost at the same price of new clubs, unless your able to do those things for yourself.

Hate crowned cups.


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Driver: Power Pod  II

Fairways: Wilson Invex 3 & 5

Irons: Cleveland VAS: 3-PW

Wedge: Alien

Chipper: Bazooka HT Max Tour

Putter: Cobra Tricep

Ball: Any 18 Pack

Bag: Black and Silver one

Cooler: Igloo Glacier Deluxe (24 can capacity)


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    • Nah, man. People have been testing clubs like this for decades at this point. Even 35 years. @M2R, are you AskGolfNut? If you're not, you seem to have fully bought into the cult or something. So many links to so many videos… Here's an issue, too: - A drop of 0.06 is a drop with a 90 MPH 7I having a ball speed of 117 and dropping it to 111.6, which is going to be nearly 15 yards, which is far more than what a "3% distance loss" indicates (and is even more than a 4.6% distance loss). - You're okay using a percentage with small numbers and saying "they're close" and "1.3 to 1.24 is only 4.6%," but then you excuse the massive 53% difference that going from 3% to 4.6% represents. That's a hell of an error! - That guy in the Elite video is swinging his 7I at 70 MPH. C'mon. My 5' tall daughter swings hers faster than that.
    • Yea but that is sort of my quandary, I sometimes see posts where people causally say this club is more forgiving, a little more forgiving, less forgiving, ad nauseum. But what the heck are they really quantifying? The proclamation of something as fact is not authoritative, even less so as I don't know what the basis for that statement is. For my entire golfing experience, I thought of forgiveness as how much distance front to back is lost hitting the face in non-optimal locations. Anything right or left is on me and delivery issues. But I also have to clarify that my experience is only with irons, I never got to the point of having any confidence or consistency with anything longer. I feel that is rather the point, as much as possible, to quantify the losses by trying to eliminate all the variables except the one you want to investigate. Or, I feel like we agree. Compared to the variables introduced by a golfer's delivery and the variables introduced by lie conditions, the losses from missing the optimal strike location might be so small as to almost be noise over a larger area than a pea.  In which case it seems that your objection is that the 0-3% area is being depicted as too large. Which I will address below. For statements that is absurd and true 100% sweet spot is tiny for all clubs. You will need to provide some objective data to back that up and also define what true 100% sweet spot is. If you mean the area where there are 0 losses, then yes. While true, I do not feel like a not practical or useful definition for what I would like to know. For strikes on irons away from the optimal location "in measurable and quantifiable results how many yards, or feet, does that translate into?"   In my opinion it ok to be dubious but I feel like we need people attempting this sort of data driven investigation. Even if they are wrong in some things at least they are moving the discussion forward. And he has been changing the maps and the way data is interpreted along the way. So, he admits to some of the ideas he started with as being wrong. It is not like we all have not been in that situation 😄 And in any case to proceed forward I feel will require supporting or refuting data. To which as I stated above, I do not have any experience in drivers so I cannot comment on that. But I would like to comment on irons as far as these heat maps. In a video by Elite Performance Golf Studios - The TRUTH About Forgiveness! Game Improvement vs Blade vs Players Distance SLOW SWING SPEED! and going back to ~12:50 will show the reference data for the Pro 241. I can use that to check AskGolfNut's heat map for the Pro 241: a 16mm heel, 5mm low produced a loss of efficiency from 1.3 down to 1.24 or ~4.6%. Looking at AskGolfNut's heatmap it predicts a loss of 3%. Is that good or bad? I do not know but given the possible variations I am going to say it is ok. That location is very close to where the head map goes to 4%, these are very small numbers, and rounding could be playing some part. But for sure I am going to say it is not absurd. Looking at one data point is absurd, but I am not going to spend time on more because IME people who are interested will do their own research and those not interested cannot be persuaded by any amount of data. However, the overall conclusion that I got from that video was that between the three clubs there is a difference in distance forgiveness, but it is not very much. Without some robot testing or something similar the human element in the testing makes it difficult to say is it 1 yard, or 2, or 3?  
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