I got OWNED Today.....

[enis750]

well after watching the Canadian Open Tour Event, the Dakota Dunes Casino Open, I figured
hey I should be able to at least break 80 here.....boy was i wrong

Here's the course's SCORECARD & HOMEPAGE

Par 72
Rated 74.9 / 129
7301 yards from the Championship Tees

Let me set this up for you

It was 12º C
Wind was blowing 35+ km/hr
sligh rain for about 6 holes on and off (think British open weather...course is very much a links style course too)

Now i didnt play my "A" game today, but i played decent
This course chewed me up and spit me out...literally
I didnt have one flat lie, only hit 8 fwys (57%) and only 5 GIR (24%)
didnt even keep track of putts...i have never experienced anything like these greens - they were like rolling putts on your kitchen floor

It was a HUGE eye opener for me and how good touring pro's are...and this wasnt even tournament conditions

My Score - 86 (respectfully)

I grinded my a$$ off to get this too
I had 2 holes that i hit Driver, 8i into
everything else, was Driver, 4i, Driver 5i or Driver 5w....it was insane

I think even my "A" game there without wind, I would be hard pressed to shoot 77-78
Im just not long enough

I have some work to do

To those of you that think you have a chance at making it on ANY KIND OF TOUR, ANYWHERE.....play a course similar to this one and shoot 65..then your ready

[kpaulhus]

I wish we had a "like" button like Facebook. This really brings it into perspective.

[chilly]

I don't know what's more ridiculous, the fact that pros hit it 290 every time...or the fact that they are very consistently hitting GIR from 230ish. I don't recall the hole, but the par 3 playing 238 at Whistling Straits with NO bailout, and those guys were all over it. It's crazy.

I've played a few ~465yd, non dogleg par 4s and it's crazy to hit a really nice drive and still have 200yds to go...and that's a ho hum par 4 for the PGA.

[enis750]

  chilly said:

I don't know what's more ridiculous, the fact that pros hit it 290 every time...or the fact that they are very consistently hitting GIR from 230ish. I don't recall the hole, but the par 3 playing 238 at Whistling Straits with NO bailout, and those guys were all over it. It's crazy.

hole 10 on this course is 623 yards

today it was a straight headwind I played Driver, 3w, 5w, GW and just hit the fringe - bogey seriously?? I watched a regular on the CDN Tour hit Driver, Driver to the fringe.....YES< DRIVER FRIGGEN DRIVER!!!!! nuts.... my 6, 7, 9, PW saw ZERO action today..they are as clean as they were when i started just no need, when you hit Driver 4i into every green

[Joeyvee]

  enis750 said:

It was 12º C

I have no idea what this means. Hahaha. Is that cold? Hot ? Strong wind ? Weak? Hahaha. Im kidding of course. Just being a troll. Before anyone else says it I know the U.S. is the only backward ass country not using centigrade and the metric system. I wish we would I hate fractions.

That's insane that the courses are set up that hard for them. Maybe after next years sony open I'll jump on HAwaii Kai GC and see what its like.

[enis750]

  Joeyvee said:

I have no idea what this means. Hahaha. Is that cold? Hot ? Strong wind ? Weak? Hahaha. Im kidding of course. Just being a troll. Before anyone else says it I know the U.S. is the only backward ass country not using centigrade and the metric system. I wish we would I hate fractions.

converted for you all (sorry, dumb arse Canadian measurements!! hahaha)

12º C = 53.6º F 35 km/hr = 21.7 miles/hr

[tws1098]

Great thread. Every guy that asks if he can make this or that tour in a couple of years while currently playing off a 10 handicap should HAVE to read this. Maybe the link to this thread can be given a spot next to the underline button for easy reference haha.

[whatwhatwhat]

How far do you average off the tee enis?

[enis750]

  whatwhatwhat said:

How far do you average off the tee enis?

not 100% sure...maybe 245-255 average??? (w roll) maybe more maybe less??

i can bomb one out there as good as the next guy (usually a couple holes a round), but i would say thats a solid average I dont hit it very far compared to some w similar index's, but have a pretty good short game to make up for my lack of distance one thing that TV and pictures don't do justice is the lay of the land I could not beleive how hilly this course was even just looking fr the tee box, you think you have a good lie then you get up there and the ball is 2feet above or below your feet!!! ITS FRIGGEN CRAZY like i said above, not one flat lie today - ZERO oh and another thing - you cant see 90% of the fwy's from the tee boxes - a TONNE of blind shots from the tee and into greens going back to my home course now (which is about 6700 yds, par 71, rated at 70.9 / 119 fr the bakcs) is going to feel like a dream!! hahahah! its good to at least try hitting from tees liek this once you get your index below a 5 or 6, just for the experience why a 5 or 6 i say?? you would want to shoot yourself by the 5th hole i will golf this course a few more times this year, as they now have a special on - pay for one get 2 rounds so $30 today for 18, is a pretty good deal for this awesome course but ill play from the next set of tees up (golds) - thats a little more "in my league" PS - did i mention that the winner of Dakota Dunes Open this year shot a 4 day total of -26 ???? yep....these guys are good

[whatwhatwhat]

Yeah shane lowry won my clubs championship then the week after played the Irish open and won as an amateur, after this he received an invite to the bridgestone, he missed the cut and in an interview he said he could not believe how quick the greens were, he said it was insane combined with the slopes!

He,s a pretty decent pro at present so Im sure playing on these courses for the first time is a shock but overtime Im sure you get used to not have the luxuries provided on a more resort course........apart from distance of course

[normdamarine]

I tell you I love playing courses like that, it is really hard to beat length... That is what I always say but I am a guy who hits it long so I can say that...lol

[iacas]

  kpaulhus said:

I wish we had a "like" button like Facebook. This really brings it into perspective.

We do. It's at the top of the page if you've signed into your Facebook account.

[MJP]

  enis750 said:

well after watching the Canadian Open Tour Event, the Dakota Dunes Casino Open, I figured

With superb conditions, you should be able to break 80 on that course if you've played it a few times and have your strategy down. It's hard to shoot your handicap even on your home course, let alone a course you've never played before.

[Chris223]

  enis750 said:

To those of you that think you have a chance at making it on ANY KIND OF TOUR, ANYWHERE.....play a course similar to this one and shoot 65..then your ready

That doesn't even scratch the surface of being ready.

[enis750]

  MJP said:

With superb conditions, you should be able to break 80 on that course if you've played it a few times and have your strategy down. It's hard to shoot your handicap even on your home course, let alone a course you've never played before.

agreed......

if i played this course a few more times, and had some decent weather, im sure i could break 80....but still....its long, tough and narrow keep in mind too though, its rated at 75 so shooting 78 would be my handicap

  Chris223 said:

That doesn't even scratch the surface of being ready.

agreed again

maybe not "ready" but its a start!!! hahahah!

[MJP]

  enis750 said:

agreed......

Yeah very true. The length is what makes it tough. Not enough birdie opportunities and too many "i need to 2 putt for par" or get up and down from 50+y because the course is so long.

[MJP]

If you can shoot 65 on that course 4 days straight then you are ready. As you said, the winner was shooting somewhere around 6-7 under a day on average for the tournament.

[atthepin]

  normdamarine said:

I tell you I love playing courses like that, it is really hard to beat length... That is what I always say but I am a guy who hits it long so I can say that...lol

how far is your average drive?