Mizuno Golf 2012 PGA Show Video and Pics!

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

Yes, they are a golf club ... like the others.

I've hit the clubs you mentioned above at various times, and no, they are not like Miura Blades or Blade-like cavities -- the spin hosel and whatever they do in their process offers a more dense feel. The others mentioned above I can describe as soft or soft and a little clicky -- when I hit the 202's with Nippons, my description was they feel dense and solid - like surgical instruments. The other clubs have never offered that feel in my almost 20 yrs of ho'ing.

As to the money - you're paying for clubs being on spec and for custom fitting and better club making. For some people, it is worth getting it right in that manner. For others, it is not worth the money.

If you purchase Bridgestone's (?) (or whoever does their forgings) in house exotic brand, Epon, you'll pay more than Miura. If you get Mizunos done by a custom club maker, you will pay as much or more than a set of Miuras. Srixons? Nice but hardly anyone is interested in the USA. C'est la vie.

Back to Mizuno - for a mass market OEM, they put a lot of technology in irons - great stuff.

Sorry bro, I still think youre just paying more for a name and for the mystique of a rare brand.

Having said that, I must also state that I highly respect Mr. Miura for the work that he does and I think that he makes beautiful irons.  At the same time though, do I think anyone would play better with Miuras than they would with any other Japanese forging?  Nope!

[MiniBlueDragon]

Stop. Posting. MP-59. Pictures!

I've made my decision and the more pictures you post the more I get confused. I had my heart set on MP-59's right up until my DNA fitting but truth be told I hit MP-53's a little more consistently. There's not much in it but I figure on "bad days" I'm better off with a smidge more forgiveness in the longer irons. Must. Not. Change. Mind........

*puts fingers in ears*

[newtogolf]

If you really had your heart set on the MP-59's I'd suggest you get them and work on your swing so you hit them well.  Nothing worse than buyers remorse on big ticket items and it sounds like you're compromising by getting the 53's when you really want the 59's.

Originally Posted by MiniBlueDragon

Stop. Posting. MP-59. Pictures!

I've made my decision and the more pictures you post the more I get confused. I had my heart set on MP-59's right up until my DNA fitting but truth be told I hit MP-53's a little more consistently. There's not much in it but I figure on "bad days" I'm better off with a smidge more forgiveness in the longer irons. Must. Not. Change. Mind........

*puts fingers in ears*

[Beachcomber]

If you really had your heart set on the MP-59's I'd suggest you get them and work on your swing so you hit them well.  Nothing worse than buyers remorse on big ticket items and it sounds like you're compromising by getting the 53's when you really want the 59's.

Agreed. And the MP-59's have a larger sweet spot than the 53's. So over time the 59's should out perform the 53's.

[Beachcomber]

If you really had your heart set on the MP-59's I'd suggest you get them and work on your swing so you hit them well.  Nothing worse than buyers remorse on big ticket items and it sounds like you're compromising by getting the 53's when you really want the 59's.

Agreed. And the MP-59's have a larger sweet spot than the 53's. So over time the 59's should out perform the 53's.

[boogielicious]

I've hit the 59s, 53s, 63s, 712 AP2 and 712 CB and I have to say the 63s felt the best with the 59s right behind.  There is something about the big cavity behind the face of the 53 that seems counter intuitive to me.  Maybe it's my engineering mind, but it seems a waste not to have more steel in contact with the hitting area.

I've been playing MP 57s since September but got a hold of two demo irons, 58 and 60 at a shop that was closing ($5 a piece!!!).  I've observed MP 60 feels the best on good contact, very similar to the 63.

[mvmac]

Glad everyone's enjoying the pics.  Got home late last night, good to be back.  Yes guys like Chris and David were a lot of fun to talk to.  They definitely stand out from "sales" guys you have to talk to at some of the other companies.  To me they are much more genuine and don't need to over hype the products if they're winners.

[MiniBlueDragon]

Decided to take everyone's advice and have booked a second fitting for next Tuesday morning.

Firstly because I wanted to get fitted for my woods too during the last fitting but despite choosing "irons plus woods" for the fitting booking screen it only booked a one hour time slot. The addendum to the fitting was, "Yes you'll probably need stiff shafts in your woods too" but that was unproven and I'd like to know for sure.

Secondly I want to be absolutely sure of my choice. If I go back and DNA stats are similar I'll know the shaft choice is correct. Then I'll be able to re-try the 59s and 53s with that shaft again. If there's a really dramatic difference I'll stick with the 53 choice but if it's marginal (like last time!) I have a feeling it'll be the 59s. My swing has already come along leaps and bounds over the last year so with the continued practice I'm doing I can't see them being a bad decision at all. Would also be good to try out a 4i and PW in both sets to see if there's a marked difference there too.

Thanks guys and thanks mvmac for the excellent vids and pics :)

[TourSpoon]

Mizuno has the sexiest oem line up hands down.

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by TourSpoon

Mizuno has the sexiest oem line up hands down.

Amen to that.

[saevel25]

just tried out the mp59 and JPX pro at golf galaxy. I have to say, the mp59 is the sweetest feeling club out there, so soft and responsive. Distance-wise, i had a few toe shots, but they carried very well, not much yardage lost. The launch angles were consistant with both clubs, so there was no difficulty hitting the mp59 compared to the JPX Pro. The JPX Pro did go about 5-7 yards farther than the mp59, it does have a higher MOI, it has a pretty good feel as well, but the mp59 is just solid. I think i will be saving up some money, i think i could be playing the mp59 for years, just a sweet sweet club

[Mr. Desmond]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Sorry bro, I still think youre just paying more for a name and for the mystique of a rare brand.

Having said that, I must also state that I highly respect Mr. Miura for the work that he does and I think that he makes beautiful irons.  At the same time though, do I think anyone would play better with Miuras than they would with any other Japanese forging?  Nope!

Sorry, bro, but you're being rude and condescending.

As to what you are paying for in Miuras, they are all custom fit (or should be) for every aspect of your swing. Yes, they are expensive. I also called a club maker who custom fit Mizuno - his charge for a set with Mizuno stock graphite shafts was about $225/club. The same price as a set of Miuras with Aftermarket Graphite Shaft. In my case, Steelfibers.

While I respect Mizuno and their irons, they are not built to the same quality. Their specs are off. Every set I had Mizuno build (4) were off in shaft frequency, and when the club maker pulled them apart to resift, they were filled with tip weights in hopes of getting the specs right. They were not.

Every club maker who handles Miura will tell you their specs are right on the dot.

That's more than you can say for Mizuno. A nice iron, and high tech, but not manufactured or built to exact specs.

I don't believe in mystique, the Miura brand is not rare, and I'm not paying for a name. I go by LM results.

[saevel25]

Really, i don't get to much into frequency matching, i rather get the alot more of the shaft right then mess around with mix and matching till i get incremental steps in the frequency between each club. I get your point, there are some club makers who can get you that accuracy. But accessibility is alot for me. There is not place i found that sells Miuras, were i can hit them. So how do i know if i like the club to ball interaction. So i am going to go with typical club makers,  just because i rather hit an iron, than go blindly..

[Mr. Desmond]

Originally Posted by saevel25

Really, i don't get to much into frequency matching, i rather get the alot more of the shaft right then mess around with mix and matching till i get incremental steps in the frequency between each club. I get your point, there are some club makers who can get you that accuracy. But accessibility is alot for me. There is not place i found that sells Miuras, were i can hit them. So how do i know if i like the club to ball interaction. So i am going to go with typical club makers,  just because i rather hit an iron, than go blindly..

Duly noted.

Now lets get back to Mizuno.

Golf clubs are golf clubs. We all like different ones. There is no best -- it is what is best for you and your pocketbook.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

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Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Sorry bro, I still think youre just paying more for a name and for the mystique of a rare brand.

Having said that, I must also state that I highly respect Mr. Miura for the work that he does and I think that he makes beautiful irons.  At the same time though, do I think anyone would play better with Miuras than they would with any other Japanese forging?  Nope!

Sorry, bro, but you're being rude and condescending.

Bros.  I love my old Mizunos and many other forged irons (there are still some rocks in there - some old Titleists, Hogans, and Clevelands are seriously like hitting a rock with a rock tied to  . . . a rock) and I'd love to own a set of Miuras (not the 202s per se, but maybe some blades or the CB-301s that remind me of my TA3s). They both rock, and this is a Mizuno thread so why were Miuras being discussed anyway?

[bplewis24]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Bros.  I love my old Mizunos and many other forged irons (there are still some rocks in there - some old Titleists, Hogans, and Clevelands are seriously like hitting a rock with a rock tied to  . . . a rock) and I'd love to own a set of Miuras (not the 202s per se, but maybe some blades or the CB-301s that remind me of my TA3s). They both rock, and this is a Mizuno thread so why were Miuras being discussed anyway?

Broski...

Because somebody has a hard-on for them and couldn't allow another to imply Mizunos were just as good or better.

Oh, wait, nobody was asking me :)

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Bros.  I love my old Mizunos and many other forged irons (there are still some rocks in there - some old Titleists, Hogans, and Clevelands are seriously like hitting a rock with a rock tied to  . . . a rock) and I'd love to own a set of Miuras (not the 202s per se, but maybe some blades or the CB-301s that remind me of my TA3s). They both rock, and this is a Mizuno thread so why were Miuras being discussed anyway?

Broski...

Because somebody has a hard-on for them and couldn't allow another to imply Mizunos were just as good or better.

Oh, wait, nobody was asking me :)

Touche - carry on Bromeisters.

[TourSpoon]

Mizuno has the sexiest oem line up hands down.

Broheims, this post sums it up...again! :-P