Course does not allow walking

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by dak4n6

It's not true golf if you ride. Golf was meant to be waked. Walking allows you to experience the course, see your shot and your lie as you approach the ball, and gives your overall game proper tempo. I hate teeing off and 10 seconds later I'm sitting next to my ball waiting, waiting. I ususally play poorly when I ride. I wonder if riding is as prevelant in Europe. It seems to me that riding goes hand in hand with America's fast food mentality.

I don't think any less of players who choose to ride. I'd just like to have a choice.

BTW - if I take the same walk around the course just before sunset or just after dawn without clubs or ball I'd have just as much enjoyment. Could those getting around the course in a powercart say the same thing? If they have a place to put their coffee and sandwich I'd suggest they probably could - and be done much quicker!

[DocPangloss]

Originally Posted by iacas

Because the PGA Tour is entertainment, and the PGA Tour doesn't think players riding around in carts would be entertaining. Certainly the fans on the premises would miss out on things.

Well that certainly explains their fight against Casey Martin - he is just so boring to watch, riding around in a cart everywhere!

[Bullitt5339]

I like to walk, but don't really mind taking a cart on some courses.  I also play better when walking.  I have played many courses that require carts, and usually there's a reason for it, although sometimes it's purely for profit.

One of the courses where I am a member doesn't allow walking for non-members at all, and even the members can't walk before 1PM on Saturdays and Sundays.  Doesn't bother me at all, to be honest, if I want to walk there, I know the schedule.  The other two (military courses) allow walking all the time.

[cruzthepug]

I sent the course an email yesterday asking about the new "no walking" rule. The head pro called me last night to explain their position and the rule (which just went into affect) was created just to create more revenue. He told me that the pace of play did have a small bearing on the decision but it was primarily about the money. My email detailed why our group walks and how we are able to keep pace with riding groups and not wanting to loose any business he told me that he would make an exception for my group and to call him when we made the tee time to he could let whoever was working know we were clear to walk. I guess knowing we would only play there, at best, once a month the exception would not be a big deal.

[Beachwood]

Just my two cents for whats its worth. I hate the fact that some courses don't allow walking. I can definitely understand why they don't allow it on peek times. My local course only allows it after 4 pm and you can't on the weekend. However, if you are a member ( I just found this out), you can walk anytime you want. It has been my experience that any time there was a walker behind me, they are always on my tail.

One more thing, I enjoy walking the course mainly because it gives me exercise and I seem to concentrate and play better.

[x129]

Its not true golf if you carry your clubs either. That's a job for your servant not a gentleman golfer.

I do both and I enjoy both rounds. I would hate to walk in 95 +degree weather on my local hilly course with 200m+ between a couple of holes but I definitely play just as fast on the flatter 1920s course (i.e. they didn't put 200m's between holes and there are not houses everywhere) when the weather is in the 70s. I haven't noticed a scoring difference.

Originally Posted by dak4n6

It's not true golf if you ride. Golf was meant to be waked. Walking allows you to experience the course, see your shot and your lie as you approach the ball, and gives your overall game proper tempo. I hate teeing off and 10 seconds later I'm sitting next to my ball waiting, waiting. I ususally play poorly when I ride. I wonder if riding is as prevelant in Europe. It seems to me that riding goes hand in hand with America's fast food mentality.

[dak4n6]

Alright alright, I'll retract my statement that it's not true golf if you ride. I just think the golfing experience is enhanced by walking, and riding detracts from the natrual rythm of the game.

I guess in the future you'll hit a shot and press your teletransporter button so you're up by your ball before it lands, and people will be complaining about having to play a 30 minute round (WTF, the group in front of us took 1.5 minutes to play each hole!)

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by dak4n6

I guess in the future you'll hit a shot and press your teletransporter button so you're up by your ball before it lands, and people will be complaining about having to play a 30 minute round (WTF, the group in front of us took 1.5 minutes to play each hole!)

Not holding my breath.  Back in the 80's all of the sci-fi movies/tv shows (and the Jetsons!) promised me this kind of stuff was going to happen in the last decade.  I'm still disappointed.

[nevets88]

Originally Posted by dak4n6

Alright alright, I'll retract my statement that it's not true golf if you ride. I just think the golfing experience is enhanced by walking, and riding detracts from the natrual rythm of the game.

I guess in the future you'll hit a shot and press your teletransporter button so you're up by your ball before it lands, and people will be complaining about having to play a 30 minute round (WTF, the group in front of us took 1.5 minutes to play each hole!)

That guy is slow, it takes him 37 minutes to finish his round.

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Not holding my breath.  Back in the 80's all of the sci-fi movies/tv shows (and the Jetsons!) promised me this kind of stuff was going to happen in the last decade.  I'm still disappointed.

People can't drive in 2 dimensions. What ever made us think they'll not kill each other trying to handle 3?

And I would rather fly than get teleported. See Dr. McCoy.

[Clambake]

Originally Posted by dak4n6

I guess in the future you'll hit a shot and press your teletransporter button so you're up by your ball before it lands.......

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Not holding my breath.  Back in the 80's all of the sci-fi movies/tv shows (and the Jetsons!) promised me this kind of stuff was going to happen in the last decade.  I'm still disappointed.

What, you guys don't have yours yet?    I guess that's why I liked working at Area 51; getting access to all the cool stuff early before the public does

[MEfree]

I ride sometimes, but have always enjoyed walking more as long as the course was designed for it.

When I lived in Florida the closest courses required carts- combined with a busy work schedule, and I found myself playing basketball instead of golf with the limited amount of free time that I had.  I guess I was following 4Putt's advice without even knowing it.

Originally Posted by DocPangloss

Well that certainly explains their fight against Casey Martin - he is just so boring to watch, riding around in a cart everywhere!

I think the PGA Tour wants to have their players considered athletes and riding carts doesn`t enhance that image.  My guess is that the Tour did not have an issue with Casey Martin personally, but was worried about opening the flood gates if they made an exception.  I was glad for Casey Martin that he eventually prevailed.

The Sr Tour allows carts, don`t they?

[Opaca]

If its a flat, close together course then I can't see any reason to not allow walking. However, courses like walking stick in pueblo and Marianna butte in Colorado have this rule for a reason. Walking stick has a 1/2 mile walk around a small gorge from green to the next tee on one hole, and Marianna butte has very steep slopes up and down the par 3's as well as being an overall quite hilly course. I normally walk 18 holes on a non-busy day in 3.5 to 4 hours or so, occasionally trying two different shot shapes from the same location for practice (I still count only the first shot). However, the two courses I mentioned both took me almost an hour to play, playing just as I normally do.

[Opaca]

Er, an hour longer, I should say.

[moparman426]

Originally Posted by Opaca

I normally walk 18 holes on a non-busy day in 3.5 to 4 hours or so, occasionally trying two different shot shapes from the same location for practice (I still count only the first shot). However, the two courses I mentioned both took me almost an hour to play, playing just as I normally do.

By chance, do you use you first ball scores for HC purposes, while still playing the occasional second ball?