Who Played the majors the best in 2012?

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by colin007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monte the Bear

Good question, here's the answer

no, i meant position of finish, like 3rd place, tenth, etc...

There's only one person who didn't know what you meant.

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

There's only one person who didn't know what you meant.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing myself

[Monte the Bear]

OK, so your issue is a badly titled thread, which frankly, isn't so badly titled?

Fine.

[Monte the Bear]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

There's only one person who didn't know what you meant.

Thank you for your input, Sean. You have been very helpful and I'm sure that I'll try harder next time.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Monte the Bear

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_miller

There's only one person who didn't know what you meant.

Thank you for your input, Sean. You have been very helpful and I'm sure that I'll try harder next time.

No problem.

[Monte the Bear]

Nice bit of editing, Sean.

[Monte the Bear]

Originally Posted by colin007

no, i meant position of finish, like 3rd place, tenth, etc...

OK, my apologies for obviously not being the smartest man in this chat room today.

Yes, well, as best as my programming skills allow, I can make this average assessment of placing

McDowell - 8th

Scott - 9th

Poulter - 15th

Harrington - 17th

Woods -19th

Stricker - 23rd

Furyk - 24th

Jacobsen - 31st

Bradley - 31st

Molinari 33rd

Johnson - 34th

[adh241]

Originally Posted by Monte the Bear

Well, as I said, it's all about the stats of those who played all of them - there was a reason Els never made Augusta and generally that's because you didn't win or were not in the top 50. Only three of these players shot 3 of the 4 Majors under par - Scott, Poulter and Mc Dowell, so as far as consistency goes, I'd say they played better over the 4 tournaments.

+ 1.  Scott for my money played consistently the best.  Acknowledged he didnt win though.  Pity, I doubt theres a nicer guy out there.

[colin007]

i hate adam scott.  to be that good at golf and that good looking?  not fair.

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I suppose statistically (points system?) you have a point, but I wonder if Scott would trade his 2012 major season with Watson or Simpson?

Well, looking at the OWGR points system, this is how is shakes out (at least for the players I bothered to look up).  And the reason Els didn`t make the Masters is because he played poorly in 2011...In 2012 prior to the Masters, he had a t2 to start the year in Europe and finished t5, t4, and t12 in the 3 weeks leading up to the Masters with no missed cuts in 8 events.  That type of play should get a Hall of Famer into Augusta.

	Total	Masters	US Open	Open	PGA
Els	117.45	DNP	15.00	100.00	2.45
Watson	115.54	100.00	MC	5.11	10.43
McIlroy	104.85	3.35	MC	1.50	100.00
Simpson	103.00	3.00	100.00	DNP	MC
Scott	93.68	15.00	8.25	60.00	10.43
McDowell	92.73	10.30	50.00	22.00	10.43
Oosthuizen	72.50	60.00	MC	6.75	5.75
Poulter	60.70	18.00	3.20	11.00	28.50
Lynn	60.00	DNP	DNP	DNP	60.00
Tiger	54.53	3.35	5.75	35.00	10.43
Harrington	47.45	15.00	21.6	3.35	7.5
Westwood	43.10	28.50	12	2.60	MC
Snedeker	41.56	6.56	DNP	35.00	MC
Furyk	41.55	13.00	21.6	3.90	3.05
Bradley	38.56	4.66	1.5	3.90	28.5
Dufner	35.96	5.40	21.6	4.30	4.66
Stricker	31.81	2.70	8.25	5.11	15.75
Donald	30.25	4.10	MC	22.00	4.15
Jacobsen	20.31	6.56	8.25	1.85	3.65
Z Johnson	19.80	4.1	3.2	11	1.5
F Molinari	16.01	6.56	4.2	3.35	1.9

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by MEfree

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I suppose statistically (points system?) you have a point, but I wonder if Scott would trade his 2012 major season with Watson or Simpson?

Well, looking at the OWGR points system, this is how is shakes out (at least for the players I bothered to look up).  And the reason Els didn`t make the Masters is because he played poorly in 2011...In 2012 prior to the Masters, he had a t2 to start the year in Europe and finished t5, t4, and t12 in the 3 weeks leading up to the Masters with no missed cuts in 8 events.  That type of play should get a Hall of Famer into Augusta.

Total

Masters

US Open

Open

PGA

Els

117.45

DNP

15.00

100.00

2.45

Watson

115.54

100.00

MC

5.11

10.43

McIlroy

104.85

3.35

MC

1.50

100.00

Simpson

103.00

3.00

100.00

DNP

MC

Scott

93.68

15.00

8.25

60.00

10.43

McDowell

92.73

10.30

50.00

22.00

10.43

Oosthuizen

72.50

60.00

MC

6.75

5.75

Poulter

60.70

18.00

3.20

11.00

28.50

Lynn

60.00

DNP

DNP

DNP

60.00

Tiger

54.53

3.35

5.75

35.00

10.43

Harrington

47.45

15.00

21.6

3.35

7.5

Westwood

43.10

28.50

12

2.60

MC

Snedeker

41.56

6.56

DNP

35.00

MC

Furyk

41.55

13.00

21.6

3.90

3.05

Bradley

38.56

4.66

1.5

3.90

28.5

Dufner

35.96

5.40

21.6

4.30

4.66

Stricker

31.81

2.70

8.25

5.11

15.75

Donald

30.25

4.10

MC

22.00

4.15

Jacobsen

20.31

6.56

8.25

1.85

3.65

Z Johnson

19.80

4.1

3.2

11

1.5

F Molinari

16.01

6.56

4.2

3.35

1.9

Well you've captured exactly what I said in one of my first posts. The OP listed the top players,  OTHER THAN ANY OF THE 4 GUYS WHO WON A MAJOR IN 2012..

[k-troop]

Well it looks like David Lynn played the best, averaging 60 points per event played.

[Monte the Bear]

lol. For my next two tricks, why (statistically) Augusta has declined as a major venue to be deemed as only a sideshow, and why St Andrews needs to be scrubbed off of the British Open list.

Stay tuned peeps, I'm sure I can get Sean's blood pressure up again.

[sean_miller]

Blood pressure? Because someone tried to turn a misleading statistic into a point of fact? Okly dokly.

[Monte the Bear]

It's not a misleading set of statistics is it? If they were incorrect, they would be misleading. But they are not - I'm hoping you are smart enough to get the difference.

The title of the thread, I'll grant you, should have been 'of those that played all four majors and made the cut, who scored the best'. I'll give you that, my bad.

But look, I've no time to go into internet warrior mode, so all best.

BTW McIlroy has just started and he's spraying it all over the place - have a fun day at work, I'll raise a glass to you.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Monte the Bear

It's not a misleading set of statistics is it? If they were incorrect, they would be misleading. But they are not - I'm hoping you are smart enough to get the difference.

The title of the thread, I'll grant you, should have been 'of those that played all four majors and made the cut, who scored the best'. I'll give you that, my bad.

But look, I've no time to go into internet warrior mode, so all best.

BTW McIlroy has just started and he's spraying it all over the place - have a fun day at work, I'll raise a glass to you.

Yes, that was really the only part I took issue with. Which stat means "the best"? Luke Donald was once the best golfer in the world, based on the OWGR, but many people never really saw him as being the best player, and now that he's not number 1 and still has no majors, many people see the Luke Donald era as a flaw in the numbers.

[Beachcomber]

Originally Posted by colin007

i hate adam scott.  to be that good at golf and that good looking?  not fair.

Dude must pull some serious wool in the winter months?

[MEfree]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Yes, that was really the only part I took issue with. Which stat means "the best"? Luke Donald was once the best golfer in the world, based on the OWGR, but many people never really saw him as being the best player, and now that he's not number 1 and still has no majors, many people see the Luke Donald era as a flaw in the numbers.

or a preference for guys who get hot and win while the average fan is watching on TV, but play inconsistently the rest of the time over a guy who consistently played well (with as many wins as anybody).  Yes, Luke failed to win a major, but who do you think should have been #1 at the end of last fall (2011)?  There was no perfect choice IMO.  Whenever there is no dominant player, there is always going to be a dispute.