@mvmac Wow thank you for that explanation that is so helpful. I was definitely getting those two things mixed up. Upright and flat were absolutely what I was referring to, I had seen some pictures of Kuchar and he was one that stood out in my mind. I will definitely shoot for the middle ground between the upright and flat.
I also didn't really realize that the pro guys shifted from steep to shallow, but seeing those pictures really helps. Thank you!