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I've been battling an over-the-top pull that comes from my arms being too active in my swing. I think that I've finally found something that works. I'm "hovering" the club for all tee shots. By hovering I mean never soling the club before starting my swing. I think this is what Nicklaus and Norman did but I don't think many other golfers do. For me, it has made it easier to have a one-piece takeway with my shoulders doing the work. I've even started using it with irons and it appears to work there as well.

Does anyone else do this? If so, does it work for you as well?
In my bag:

Driver: FT-3 10° Diamana Blueboard 63 Stiff
Fairway: 904F 15° Purple Ice 75 Stiff
Fairway: 904F 19° YS-6+ StiffHybrid: Idea A2 20° Aldila NV 85 StiffIrons: Silver Scot Forged MB 4-PW, Rifle 6.0 ShaftsGap Wedge: Silver Scot Forged 52Sand/Lob Wedge: Vokey SM 58.12 Put...

I think it's just one of those things that is very player-specific. While I know the "supposed" advantage (i.e., your muscles don't "suddenly" go into action after "resting" the club on the ground), I think it either hits people right or it doesn't. Never felt good for me.

On a tangent note, I'm always amazed at how most swing tips really are just a "reminder" to try to achieve what is a very simple thing to describe and do, but we're always looking for some way to do it consistently. In your case, a one-piece takeaway is a simple thing, but we all try different little quirks just to remind our sometimes-stuborn brains to do it every time! To quote my friend: golf is a simple game, it's just not easy! That's my zen golf moment, I'm over it.......

Nothing in the swing is done at the expense of balance.


I have hovered my driver at address for a couple of years. It works for me.

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Driver: :TaylorMade: RBZ 9.5 Reg Flex
3 Wood :TaylorMade: RBZ Reg Flex
Hybrid: Ping G25 Hybrids 17*, 20*, 23*

Irons:Ping G25 5-Gap Wedge, Sr Flex, Vokey 56.14 Spin Mill NS Pro Reg, Flex

Putter: Bobby Grace Center Shaft 32"


I hover with my irons. When I take the club back, if I feel grass hit the back of the club I freak out and have to start over. Hovering keeps it from happening as much.

i hover my driver now because i was hitting alot of shots off the heal. if you rest your driver and setup and move the head to where it would be at impact, the ball would be on the heel of the face. it has helped me alot.

-matt

Driver: 09 Burner 10.5 Aldila NV 65 X Stiff
3wd: G10 14* Aldila NV 85 X Stiff
Hybrid: G10 18* Aldila NV 105 X Stiff
3-PW: I10 X100
Wedge: Tour 52* & 58* S400Putter: Circa 62 No.2 35" Ball: Tour IXLowest 9 (-E) 36Lowest 18 (+2) 73


I am Mr. Over-the-top himself! and like you I hold the clubhead back from the ball with irons and hybrids and above and back and as much as six inches with my driver. So doing seems to ward off my incessant over-the-top pulling of the ball. I have quit golf in the past over my inability to stop pulling shots. Lessons from several highly recommended pros, hours and hours of reading and practice, never helped. (for long) But that "hover and lag" thing is allowing me to play again and even hit some pretty decent and powerful shots now and again but most importantly - a minimum of pulled shots!

The other thing that has helped is to tell myself to turn my left shoulder "under" not "around" as I take the club back. dayll

i've gone back and forth. sometimes, if i'm conscious of the club hitting anything on the backswing i will. but sometimes it doesn't bother me. it is definitely a mental thing. i may have to start trying it again and see if i like it. i'll try it out at the range tomorrow and see how it works for me. thanks for reminding me of this.
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Driver: Big Bertha Diablo 8*
3 Wood: 4DX Fairway 15*
3I-PW: X20 Tours (Rifle Project X Flighted 6.0)Wedges: CG12 Black Pearl 50* 54* SM Vokey X-Forged 58* C GrindPutter: Classic #2 66* lieBalls: Various

When I want to "Sweep" the ball, it helps me get that feel. I do it every time on my drive, and fairway woods. With my irons though, I ground the club, because I like the feel of hitting the ground reminding me to "hit down" on the ball.

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2


I was hitting behind the ball (fat shot) for a while and was getting frustrated. I noticed that when I addressed the ball, my left arm wasn't strait and aligned. So when I would try to make contact with the the ball, my arm would now straiten out and I would hit behind the ball.
So I started hovering my Irons and Drivers to keep my arm nice and strait and have been hitting them a lot better!! My Irons I only hover about an quarter of an inch and my driver the same. Just enough to have the weight of the club give me the proper alignment.

I don't hover. When I do, for some god-unknown reason I'm prone to knocking the ball off the tee with my club at address. And, I'm a dead stick, too. I don't waggle. I don't get the point of waggling - it just knocks the ball off the tee and I have to re-tee.
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I don't hover. When I do, for some god-unknown reason I'm prone to knocking the ball off the tee with my club at address. And, I'm a dead stick, too. I don't waggle. I don't get the point of waggling - it just knocks the ball off the tee and I have to re-tee.

Your supposed to waggle well away from the ball your not supposed to contact it or the tee - lol. But all in all, I'm not much of a "waggle" man myself.

Driver Ping G10 10.5*
Hybrids Ping G5 (3) 19* Bridgestone J36 (4) 22*
Irons Mizuno MP-57 5-PW
Wedges Srixon WG-504 52.08 Bridgestone WC Copper 56.13
Putter 33" Scotty Cameron Studio Select #2


I think hovering the club will help people to fix certain muscle memory issues that may be messing up their swing. Its very similar to something I do, I try to hook my shots b/c my natural swing and what my muscles know is a slice.

In The Bag

Driver: Launcher 400cc
Fairway Wood: Big Bertha 7 Wood
Hybrid: 3H X Hybrid 21 DegreesIrons: Slingshot OSS 4-PWGW: CG10 52 DegreesSW: Tour Action 56 DegreesPutter: White Hot Marxman XG Mallet


I always hover the driver, and most woods and hybrids. I don't generally hover my irons, although I probably ought to. When I have a bad lie in the rough, I hover to avoid accidentally moving the ball, and I usually make my best shots that way. I am also a good fairway bunker player, and that also requires that the club not be grounded.

The problem is that I like to use a slight forward press to initiate the stroke with my irons, and it is nearly impossible to press without grounding the club. I may have to work on it though, as really do tend to strike the ball better when I hover.
I don't get the point of waggling - it just knocks the ball off the tee and I have to re-tee.

I am a waggler. Not extreme, but while I'm getting my feet set and the ball positioned right, I waggle to keep my arms from tensing up. That is the point of waggling, it just keeps your hands and forearms loose. The longer you stand still over the ball, the more you tend to tighten up. The tighter you get the worse your swing will be. Players waggle just to keep relaxed.

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That is the point of waggling, it just keeps your hands and forearms loose. The longer you stand still over the ball, the more you tend to tighten up. The tighter you get the worse your swing will be. Players waggle just to keep relaxed.

that is true. but, you also want to try to waggle the club in the path that it is going to go. many golfers use the waggle to relax and also to adjust themselves as they prepare for the path the club will take.

What's in the bag... ( Revolver)

Driver: Big Bertha Diablo 8*
3 Wood: 4DX Fairway 15*
3I-PW: X20 Tours (Rifle Project X Flighted 6.0)Wedges: CG12 Black Pearl 50* 54* SM Vokey X-Forged 58* C GrindPutter: Classic #2 66* lieBalls: Various

I've been battling an over-the-top pull that comes from my arms being too active in my swing. I think that I've finally found something that works. I'm "hovering" the club for all tee shots. By hovering I mean never soling the club before starting my swing. I think this is what Nicklaus and Norman did but I don't think many other golfers do. For me, it has made it easier to have a one-piece takeway with my shoulders doing the work. I've even started using it with irons and it appears to work there as well.

I remember, at least I think I remember, Nick Faldo saying he does that with the driver on Playing Lessons from the Pros.

I use the hover technique when I've been forced to stop a swing because I get caught on the way back. I also tend to hover when in the rough. And of course bunker shots, but that goes without saying.

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I hover my driver. I'm not sure how long I've done it, but I'm sure it has been at least 2-3 years. I never made a decision to hover, it just seemed to happen. I am comfortable hovering, so I do it.

I do believe that hovering sort of mimics the height the club should be at impact, so my alignment should be better.

Driver- Geek Dot Com This! 12 degree Matrix Ozik Xcon 6 Stiff
Adams Tour Issue 4350 Dual Can Matrix Ozik Xcon 5

Hybrids- Srixon 18 deg
Srixon 21 deg Irons- Tourstage Z101 3-PW w/Nippon NS Pro 950 GH - Stiff Srixon i701 4-PW w/ Nippon NS Pro 950 GH-Stiff MacGregor...


Being a newbie to golf I'll try this.. Thanks for the tip

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Woods R5 3 and 5
Driver R5 460 CC


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