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Can't you just open your shoulder line and hips and hit a little fade if you move the ball forward?

Yeah I have been trying that but I will hit shots that just start on my body line and hook left making the miss even worse at times. I think that in the end is probably the right setup though if I can eliminate that miss.

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I went away from even trying to hit draws with my driver. I can set up with the ball in the middle of my front foot. Pre-set my weight a little forward. Setup my hips ans shoulders at target and swing down that line. I usually hit it pretty straight with a baby fade. Once and a while ill pull it but it seems to fade more when I do that so the results aren't disastrous.
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I went away from even trying to hit draws with my driver. I can set up with the ball in the middle of my front foot. Pre-set my weight a little forward. Setup my hips ans shoulders at target and swing down that line. I usually hit it pretty straight with a baby fade. Once and a while ill pull it but it seems to fade more when I do that so the results aren't disastrous.

Opened up a bit and moved the ball up a bit per @saevel25 with pretty decent results at the range today.Β  I don't think the ball is as forward as it looks in the video, I just think the camera angle is a bit left of where it should be...? Β I felt like I was literally throwing a fishing line from the top but the picture is not changed much.Β  Much higher ball flight with some nice fades though.Β  I did get a couple pull hooks in about 50 balls but not bad.Β  I have a very hard time getting a feel for the proper tilt at address and keeping the head in place.Β  I really seem to struggle with this.

I feel like my ability to get off the tee consistently is literally the difference from where I am to about a 2 handicap or so.Β  The result of my iron swingsΒ areΒ so much better this year with all the work that we have done.Β Β Staying positive and looking forward to getting this on the right track and the results thatΒ will come from it.

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I have a very hard time getting a feel for the proper tilt at address and keeping the head in place.Β  I really seem to struggle with this.

The video looks great. I know what you mean, but look at the video and do a little to convince yourself that you're better at this than you're giving yourself credit for being, mmmmkay? :)

I feel like my ability to get off the tee consistently is literally the difference from where I am to about a 2 handicap or so.Β  The result of my iron swingsΒ areΒ so much better this year with all the work that we have done.Β Β Staying positive and looking forward to getting this on the right track and the results thatΒ will come from it.

Driving is important. High SV. :) Keep staying positive - it's looking great.

Just remember too that the driver and irons are different swings. At your level, you'll have different key pieces to work on with each.

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I need to get me some more of that ^^^^^^^^ with my swing.

Your swing is looking good. Β It is always baffling to me when I see someone else do something (that I struggle with ) with ease.........It doesn't look that hard....why can't I do it..... :pound:

I can't even exaggerate shaft lean/flat wrist. Β I can with no ball, but trying to hit the ball is something different.

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Looks good to me bud keep grinding.

Thanks, and thanks for the thoughts on opening up.Β  I need to stick with that permanently.

The video looks great. I know what you mean, but look at the video and do a little to convince yourself that you're better at this than you're giving yourself credit for being, mmmmkay? :)

Am I catching an Office Space reference in there?Β  Haha.Β  Okay I will do that, it is looking a bit better, and the results are better as well.

Driving is important. High SV. :) Keep staying positive - it's looking great.

Just remember too that the driver and irons are different swings. At your level, you'll have different key pieces to work on with each.

I just got through the initial Driving is aΒ high SVΒ part.Β ;)Β  I think the fact that they are two different swings is what hasΒ been tripping me up a bit.Β  I like to do everything the same, I am sure everybody does.Β  It is weird to have two slightly differentΒ feeling swings.Β  I think it is in some ways harder now that my iron swing is at a place where itΒ is pretty much down toΒ some fine tuning.Β  I know that swing and what it is supposed to be and when I put the driver in the hands I want to feel that when I should not.

I really want to get to the point where IΒ can hit a nice high drive almostΒ every time that will carry 235-240ish on a normal day.Β  If it fades or draws a bitΒ into the rough about 40% of the time I am good with that.

I need to get me some more of that ^^^^^^^^ with my swing.

Your swing is looking good. Β It is always baffling to me when I see someone else do something (that I struggle with ) with ease.........It doesn't look that hard....why can't I do it.....

I can't even exaggerate shaft lean/flat wrist. Β I can with no ball, but trying to hit the ball is something different.

"Golf is hard." ;-)


Anyway, thanks for the encouraging thoughts everyone!

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Touche...........

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Almost, but could not quite take the driver range work to the course today.Β Β I did open up, put the ball forward, bump the hips and tried to throw the club from A4.Β  It was a bitΒ better overall.Β  In seven drives I hitΒ only a coupleΒ high fades and hadΒ a few low fades.Β  I was proving the high SV of drives this morning, as my other two drives wereΒ low hooks that cost me three strokes.Β  I sort of made up for the first bad drive by sticking a nine iron to two feet on a par 3.Β I was even going into the last hole when the second snap hook off the tee ended up costing me two strokes on that hole.Β  One of these days I will learn to hit the driver well on the course, can't wait for that day.

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Almost, but could not quite take the driver range work to the course today.Β Β I did open up, put the ball forward, bump the hips and tried to throw the club from A4.Β  It was a bitΒ better overall.Β  In seven drives I hitΒ only a coupleΒ high fades and hadΒ a few low fades.Β  I was proving the high SV of drives this morning, as my other two drives wereΒ low hooks that cost me three strokes.Β  I sort of made up for the first bad drive by sticking a nine iron to two feet on a par 3.Β I was even going into the last hole when the second snap hook off the tee ended up costing me two strokes on that hole.Β  One of these days I will learn to hit the driver well on the course, can't wait for that day.

This is huge for me as well. Β If I am driving well, I can usually score well. Β Certainly makes the game a lot more fun.

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Driver swing looks great! Β Head steady plus tilt at impact is something I'm working on too. Β Very hard! Β But your last video looks great.

And yeah, driving well makes the game so much easier. Β And way more fun. Β I feel much less frustrated hitting a solid drive, a not too bad approach that misses the green a bit, then making a decent attempt but not quite getting up and down, than I do hitting a crap drive, punching one out to 50 yards, pitching on, and two putting. Β I may have bogeyed both holes but on the first I feel more like I'm playing "real" golf, giving myself multiple not too low percentage chances at par (GIR + 2-putt, up and down from just off the green), compared to grinding out a bogey, with the only chances at par a low percentage super close 50 yard pitch or a low percentage drained long putt.

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Driver swing looks great! Β Head steady plus tilt at impact is something I'm working on too. Β Very hard! Β But your last video looks great.

And yeah, driving well makes the game so much easier. Β And way more fun. Β I feel much less frustrated hitting a solid drive, a not too bad approach that misses the green a bit, then making a decent attempt but not quite getting up and down, than I do hitting a crap drive, punching one out to 50 yards, pitching on, and two putting. Β I may have bogeyed both holes but on the first I feel more like I'm playing "real" golf, giving myself multiple not too low percentage chances at par (GIR + 2-putt, up and down from just off the green), compared to grinding out a bogey, with the only chances at par a low percentage super close 50 yard pitch or a low percentage drained long putt.

Thanks, yeah it is getting there.Β  Slowly, but it will get there.Β  Had one of the best driver range sessions I have had in a while at lunch today.Β  I was hitting the center of the face, hitting up on the ball launching it high and long with a nice little fade.Β  Maybe the stars aligned for that session, but sooner or later these resultsΒ should start leaking over to the course.Β Β  It has to.Β  I know exactly what you are saying.Β Β  "Real golf" is more fun!

This is huge for me as well. Β If I am driving well, I can usually score well. Β Certainly makes the game a lot more fun.

QFT!

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Played in my first match play event today. Β  We had a blast. Β It was a club event that is a net partners match play event. Β My partner and I ended up losing after 19 holes, it was a good match and a lot of fun. Β I was putting very well, but my irons we off slightly all day. Β I started off driving very well the last for or five driver holes I just just hooking like crazy and it probably cost us the match. Β I had to give 10-11 strokes I believe to each of their guys. Β  It kind of sucked because I play this course bit Β worse than my handicap usually because it is so hard, and I am pretty sure one of their guys was either a sandbagger or played the round of his life. Β They have apparently made the finals twice. Β Pretty happy with how I played overall, it kind of makes me realize that I am not really going to get any better though until I can stop losing strokes with the driver.

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That's why the SV is so high on driving. Your a lot closer than you think just keep working on hitting a baby cut.
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That's why the SV is so high on driving. Your a lot closer than you think just keep working on hitting a baby cut.

I am trying. Β I think my lower body started slowing down as I was on the final holes and my hips were staying closed too long causing the path to move right too much.

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Did your partner contribute anything? :)

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Did your partner contribute anything? :)

Yeah he did. Β He tied them on a number of holes when I got in trouble and he even won a hole I think. Β I relied on him a lot on the holes where everybody got strokes but me. Β He is your typical over the top slicer though. Β :)

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Used the driver five timesΒ this morning,Β and the results are as follows: hook, hook, littleΒ draw, hook, hook.Β  Yep, I was trying to hit fades. :-D I have a tournament coming up soon and I am ****ed!

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