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3+ years ago this, at the time, new service was being created.  The idea was to create a way for public access players like me and you to book tee times at private clubs.  With the payment of an initial fee, one would have access to a limited, but growing, number of private courses.  Once one paid the equivalent of a guest fee per player, you had yourself a tee time at an otherwise private facility.

Fast forward three years.  The service is still around.  Anyone ever used the service?  Any current members?  The rest of us might benefit from the insights of a past user or member.

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I've looked into it before as I've been kind of obsessed with getting onto a lot of private clubs around here, but they have very little accessible in Southern California.  The couple clubs they claim to have in the San Diego area are really low end clubs that just aren't very hard to get on to if you want (one even sells tee times to the public).    Perhaps they're providing a better service somewhere, but not in SoCal.

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Hi Righty.

Thanks for the comment about Boxgroove.  You are right about the growth and still being around!  We enter our 4th golf season this year if spring would ever get here!  We have nearly 700 private clubs now engaged with us and 25K golfers.  Every golfer is welcome to join whether you belong to a private club or not. The best part is it's free to join.  Take the 90 seconds and join our fast growing community.  It's just golf.  No ads, no spam.  We have been fortunate to have a great community of golfers and of course the support of the private club industry .  We certainly don't have every private course involved and there maybe a course or two you can't play inside Boxgroove but we know there are quite a few of our clubs who would enjoy having you at their fine facilities to see what their club is all about.  Drop us a line at 888-918-1872 or feel free to email us at customer.service@boxgroove.com.  We hope you join us in 2013.

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Hi Clambake:

Trust us...we are working very hard to get more private clubs  in So Cal to participate with us.  As you can imagine this can be a very long and arduous process when dealing with multiple committees and clubs that don't like change.  Part of the network effect is getting a few more golfers will show the private clubs that they want to be in front of this audience.  There just may be a few dues paying members in and amongst us!

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Hi Nuclear Mike.

What neck of the woods do you live in?  We are working many areas of the country.  Drop us a line and let us know where you live and we can update you.  Certainly, we appreciate your support and patience while we build the network.  If you find yourself traveling where we have courses participating make sure to pack your clubs!

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Originally Posted by Clambake

I've looked into it before as I've been kind of obsessed with getting onto a lot of private clubs around here, but they have very little accessible in Southern California.  The couple clubs they claim to have in the San Diego area are really low end clubs that just aren't very hard to get on to if you want (one even sells tee times to the public).    Perhaps they're providing a better service somewhere, but not in SoCal.

I've recently joined the SCGA and noticed that they have a lot of "member outings" at the private courses around us.

http://www.ghintpp.com/SCGA/TPPOnlineGolfer/default.aspx

I'm considering Mission Viejo CC because I've always wanted to play there. :)  You've got Rancho Bernardo, The Crosby, Bernardo Heights, Santaluz, San Diego CC, among others.  (I could've sworn that you also had Fairbanks Ranch but I don't see it anymore.  No matter to me ... I've played there already ;))

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Hi Clambake:

Trust us...we are working very hard to get more private clubs  in So Cal to participate with us.  ...... Part of the network effect is getting a few more golfers will show the private clubs that they want to be in front of this audience.  There just may be a few dues paying members in and amongst us!

You're dealing with a classic business conundrum - getting better product so more people may join, and having more members to entice a better product.   As a consumer, I wish to pay for a service I know I can get, not one that I may get in the future.     But hey, I really wish you luck in getting there.    I'm running a startup company myself and dealing with a similar struggle to raise capital and get our product into the market, so I understand what you're trying to do.

Originally Posted by Golfingdad

I've recently joined the SCGA and noticed that they have a lot of "member outings" at the private courses around us.

I'm considering Mission Viejo CC because I've always wanted to play there. :)  You've got Rancho Bernardo, The Crosby, Bernardo Heights, Santaluz, San Diego CC, among others.  (I could've sworn that you also had Fairbanks Ranch but I don't see it anymore.  No matter to me ... I've played there already ;))

The SCGA does an awesome job of lining up member outings at a lot of very desirable courses, including a number of the private clubs as you mention.    In addition to those you indicate, they've got Sherwood, Bighorn, and some other hard-to-get-on clubs set up in the coming months (BTW, Fairbanks Ranch was last week).      I'm also a member of the NCGA, and they don't get nearly as many choice offerings as the SCGA, although I do have to give them kudos for arranging Olympic Club last fall.

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I signed up for as a member over a year ago and have yet to ever use it. I live in the Atlanta area and we are a pretty golf course rich metropolitan area. Unfortunately, there are never any quality private courses available through boxgroove here. Sorry.... But it's pretty darn useless....

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Originally Posted by Incognito

I signed up for as a member over a year ago and have yet to ever use it. I live in the Atlanta area and we are a pretty golf course rich metropolitan area. Unfortunately, there are never any quality private courses available through boxgroove here.

Sorry.... But it's pretty darn useless....

Same here in Tampa - use Golfnow.com to book most of my tee-times away from my home course. Plenty to choose from in Tampa/St Pete/Bradenton/Sarasota.

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Clambake:

our service is free...that why we created it that way so you don't buy something that is not going to be of value to you.  It takes 90 seconds to join.  And we have Zero advertising or spam on our site.  So you can watch us grow and join the revolution of you can just be a fan and watch from outside the ropes.  We hope you join us.

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Icognito - OH....sorry you haven't had a chance to play any courses in the ATL.  We have keep adding courses every week.   Within about 2 or 3 hours if you every find yourself travelin and taking your sticks there are some great courses.  Rome wasn't built in a day and changing the golf industry doesn't happen over night.  We've added 3 more great courses in Ohio this week alone.  When you head back to C-bus to congratulate the Bucks winning the NCAA's make sure to bring your clubs!

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Rick Martin - which one is your home course?  Is it public or private?  If it's private we would love them to join Boxgroove.  We'll never compete with Golfnow on price on Boxgroove.  It's not about discount golf on our site.  It's about a 4 hour round of golf, a new golf course to experience, warm up on the range for 45 minutes with all the golf balls you need to get your game ready.  We like to think we have a lot of quality golf courses.  We hope the golfers from The Sand Trap will enjoy the service.  It's grown quite a bit since The Sand Trap covered us.  Here's a great quote from a recent Boxgroove member who played a top 100 Modern private course on the Golfweek 2012 rankings.

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    "Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined playing a round at Pumpkin Ridge private. If it wasn't for the great work Boxgroove is doing it never would have happened.

    I was heading on a business trip to Portland for the first time and found Boxgroove about a week before I was to arrive on a Sunday. The experience working with the Boxgroove team was PERFECT !!!!!

    When I got to Pumpkin Ridge they have everything ready and waiting for me. The rental clubs and cart were right outside the pro shop doors. The staff was very friendly and helpful. Said to head up the range and hit until I was ready. There were not very many people and I was able to sit at each tee box and take in how wonderful the experience was. The course was in excellent condition even with a lot of rain. The greens were perfect.

    I would highly recommend playing not only because of the history, but the immaculate conditions.

    Boxgroove - Thank you again and look forward to using your service whenever possible."

    Written by Don LaMure • March 21st 2013

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hi mcredmond, i just went to your site and checked availability near me - i selected only the "boxgroove affiliated" option.  do i have to register to see any rates?  i have no clue what these courses might charge for a round.

Colin P.

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I signed up for boxgroove. Could not be more disappointed. Blatant mins advertising, IMO. I belong to a private club. My pro has 100x more options for me to play other private clubs than boxgroove. The site lists tons of clubs, but only a very few are actually 'in network'.

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BCP – we saw your post and wanted to address this as we think the service is very clear with nearly 31K golfers who have joined and almost 750 private clubs in 3 countries now.  Boxgroove was created initially to make traditional reciprocity easier so members of clubs would NOT have to make a bunch of phone calls back and forth to their club pro and then the club pros to club pros trading calls.  Harness the technology everyone uses today whether it be a laptop, i-Pad or smart phone.  Along the way we realized that other avid golfers who did not belong to a club found Boxgroove a great way to test drive a club and ultimately join. So we made our service available for all golfers and let the clubs control all aspects of how they participate.

If you take a moment to look at our legend on the clubs tab you can see how clubs are affiliated with us.  Private clubs have one of three designations on Boxgroove.  The legend says clubs are  either:  1) Boxgroove Affiliated – these clubs are enrolled in our service.  These clubs have the Orange Boxgroove Logo and typically the club’s logo.  2) Member Affiliated – these clubs have a blue silhouette golfer next to their name.  These clubs have one to many of their members who have joined Boxgroove.  These members can host our members who request to be hosted by them.  IMO golf is a great social game and to be enjoyed playing with others.  3) No Affiliation – these clubs are not using our service and have no members who have joined.  They are delineated with the universal no entry or no access symbol -  a red circle with a line thru it.  Also, you can see in red for these clubs – This club is not affiliated with Boxgroove.  The reason these clubs are listed is Boxgroove is a resource for golfers to help find a club they may want to join.  For example, if you lived in Detroit and moved to Raleigh NC you could go to Boxgroove select the state of North Carolina and the metropolitan area Raleigh and you could see all the private clubs in this area to begin your research.    We hope this legend and text is clear now?

We never want to mislead our community of golfers.  4+ years later we have nearly 750 private clubs –we hope we are doing right by the golfers and the private clubs.  Do we have every golf course participating?  Of course not!  Would we like more to join us? Certainly!  You said you belong to a private club – we would enjoy getting your club to participate.  It makes the network stronger so your options are 100x’s times better here than having to bug your golf pro with phone calls.  Feel free to drop us a note at customer.service@boxgroove.com and we can follow up with you.

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